so once again, performance is going to be pretty close between the two, and which is "better" comes down to antialiasing, Crossfire implementation, and general features.
Jawed said:Sigh, that's the worst thing I've ever read on DL - normally it's a very good site, but that is just bonkers speculation as far as I can tell.
geo said:Exec summary: "Meh, nothing special. Might win by a little, might lose by a little. A little bit better pixel pipes, heading down the Xenos road but not as far. Too bad they didn't hit their clocks, because they were initially shooting much higher than 600."
The Baron said:so once again, performance is going to be pretty close between the two, and which is "better" comes down to antialiasing, Crossfire implementation, and general features.
The Baron said:so once again, performance is going to be pretty close between the two, and which is "better" comes down to antialiasing, Crossfire implementation, and general features.
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?p=568979#post568979radeonic2 said:I wonder if you'll be able to use TAA and superaa at the same time
geo said:Also, he's not expecting 90nm NV high-end until 2006, which I found the most interesting. I begin to get the sense that a 7800Ultra is not going to be enuf to "take" 1800XT.
trinibwoy said:Of course, all this is assuming that the R520 isn't faster by some embarrasingly large margin - and there is no evidence so far that this is the case.
trinibwoy said:And what exactly would Nvidia gain financially by a knee-jerk reaction to an R520 that is faster? They were happy to let the PE take the crown last generation and that worked out fine for them. As demonstrated before, effective execution is far more important that a 5% performance advantage at the ultra high end. I get the feeling that margins on the GTX are very high even at the sub $500 level, so if they just keep pumping them out they'll be raking in the cash no matter what ATi does a month from now.
Of course, all this is assuming that the R520 isn't faster by some embarrasingly large margin - and there is no evidence so far that this is the case.
The Baron said:
geo said:You pour an awful lot of content into "interesting"!
geo said:Tho, if you think Jen is ever "happy" about being second in any performance aspect anywhere having to do with graphics, I think you are very mistaken.
trinibwoy said:What strikes me as very strange is that the XL will be available before the XT - have we ever seen a case where the slower SKU is released first even though it's based on the exact same chip except with lower clocks? It just sounds to me like the XT is going to be hand-picked XL's that are capable of higher clocks.
geo said:It certainly doesn't suggest good things about yields. For awhile I played with the idea that XL and XT are different spins (i.e. pre and post "soft ground" fix), but I think that would be a really bad idea, so I hope that's not it.
trinibwoy said:It also doesn't bode well for overclockability of the XL - even the Inq said as much today.
There's absolutely nothing preventing ATI from changing the sample positions per-frame with SuperAA enabled, since when running SuperAA, just as with the other Crossfire modes, each video card has no idea that it is running in tandem with a second card. So the only question remaining is whether or noT ATI will program the support (which would seem trivial, given that they already have implemented the "temporal dithering" AA).radeonic2 said:Ok.. will TeAA work with superaa?
Would be uber if it did
trinibwoy said:What strikes me as very strange is that the XL will be available before the XT - have we ever seen a case where the slower SKU is released first even though it's based on the exact same chip except with lower clocks?
Hyp-X said:Yes.
The X700 Pro was released before the X700 XT...