Anand has Farcry 1.2 patch and tests SM3.0

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  1. Ante P

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    I have no idea. :)

    TB tried supplying a new build of the app but it refuses to work on my rig and the debug versions doesn't create an error log so we're kind of at a stand still now that we don't know how to solve.
     
    #121 Ante P, Jul 3, 2004
  2. Hyp-X

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    In case you missed that:

     
    #122 Hyp-X, Jul 3, 2004
  3. nAo

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    I have the feeling they used dynamic branching to avoid to sample 2 different resolutions depth maps in some cases. Samples are taken and percentage close filtered from a single depth map..and from another one. Sampled signal is then filtered between the 2 maps..like in trilinear filtering.
    When the filtering coefficient is almost zero or almost one you just avoid to sample both and you just sample the higher or the lower resolution depth map, thus saving bandwith and ALU cycles. This would easily explain the big improvements in performance we're seeing on that test..
    BriLinear Depth Shadow Mapping anyone? ;)
    Obviously this is just an hypothesis..sorry if I completely missed the target.

    ciao,
    Marco
     
    #123 nAo, Jul 3, 2004
  4. Pete

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    Nice to see Derek respond so quickly and update the article so transparently. It's a total turnaround from last year's mess.

    Still, I have to (stubbornly) admit that it's disappointing that a profitable site can still make such mistakes.
     
    #124 Pete, Jul 3, 2004
  5. Ailuros

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    Can't disagree there. Could be that time pressure is one of the possible explanations, yet still not a good enough excuse; not at least for a slip like that.

    It takes fractions of seconds in a running timedemo to detect with the naked eye whether antialiasing is on or not. Presupposition would be of course that you actually watch the screen while it's running....*cough*
     
    #125 Ailuros, Jul 3, 2004
  6. dizietsma

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    But remember your thoughts on temporal AA until someone pointed out you had not even enabled it yet ... :oops:
     
    #126 dizietsma, Jul 3, 2004
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    Now you ARE doing that with you're 6800 review...right????

    :D

    Jack
     
    #127 Jack_Tripper, Jul 3, 2004
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  9. dizietsma

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    Anandtech have fixed the results but not the conclusion, first part of their conclusion reads

    "Both of our custom benchmarks show ATI cards leading without anisotropic filtering and antialiasing enabled, with NVIDIA taking over when the options are enabled."

    Which is completely out of phase with the new results.

    Sigh.

    My apolgies to jvd and rainz for saying now you get speed with AA/AF with SM3, nope Ati is still king when it comes to AA and AF in this game :)
     
    #129 dizietsma, Jul 3, 2004
  10. Ailuros

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    O'm tupongg bkindfodled :lol:
     
    #130 Ailuros, Jul 3, 2004
  11. Draconis

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    Well now after reading this stuff about anandtech with the new results I wont go to that site anymore.
     
    #131 Draconis, Jul 3, 2004
  12. digitalwanderer

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    Well, I still give 'em points for updating the graph so quickly. That is a much different reaction than last time and a muchly better way of handling it. 8)

    Besides, if they changed the conclusion the changed graph results wouldn't be as "transparent". ;)
     
    #132 digitalwanderer, Jul 3, 2004
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    [​IMG]

    The word is already out there, so the update is too late.
     
    #133 thop, Jul 3, 2004
  14. BRiT

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    The sad thing is, they didn't even update their conclusion paragraphs. The evidence observed contradicts their conclustion:

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    EDIT: damn, I must still be sleeping since I didnt see this mentioned just a couple of posts earlier.
     
    #134 BRiT, Jul 3, 2004
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    the sad part is how common basic errors are on hardware sites... would it kill anyone to take the time to do things right?
     
    #135 Mr. Travis, Jul 3, 2004
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    Anand seems to be very frequent on making errors.
     
    #136 Humus, Jul 3, 2004
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    Yeh but i think it's not really an " errors ".. If you know what i mean. :roll: :wink:

    EDIT: and Btw Humus ! nice demo again ! and continue your good job ! :wink:

    RainZ
     
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    no prob , thats what happens on the net .

    Btw the 4.7 betas are even faster than these
     
    #138 jvd, Jul 3, 2004
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    It is a bit suspect that he didn't change his conclusion even though the new results invalidate it. :?
     
    #139 digitalwanderer, Jul 3, 2004
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    I believe they're not doing anything fishy... they were just sloppy with the said review (which imho is inexcusable for a "professional" site, but anyways)...
     
    #140 Kombatant, Jul 3, 2004
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