AMD: Speculation, Rumors, and Discussion (Archive)

Is the one posted at pcgameshardware.de a fancy rendered illustration as well?

 

So much so that I think AMD might have hired Nvidia's die shopper to make theirs too.

 

Cant type much but...I couldnt resist it



DONT SILENCE US, SILENCE THE GPU!

 

I was wondering if there's a one-stop shop for that kind of thing.

Nobody's taken a belt sander or some sulfuric acid to the RX480 yet.

 

Rift with Thrift!

 

I don't think it is quite that bad.... die size seems reasonable to me. The geometry performance/unit is definitely improved (just wish they had recognized that as an opportunity to lead not just catch up). The performance/$ is very good. I don't even really care about the power consumption (though I can see this being an issue for mobile applications), just the heat and noise that goes with it. I was planning on buying a reference one, but now I think I'll wait for the custom designs and the GTX1060. I'd rather have 8GB of memory than 6GB, but if the 1060 is both cooler and quieter that will be pretty hard to resist.

The 150w+ on 150w issue is kinda odd as well. I mean why even fly that close to the sun...

 

For how long? See 1060 rumors.

 

Imagine an alternate reality, where, for the last 6 months, AMD had only promoted features where it actually did well.

You'd get reviews saying that the 480 is a great value, with significantly improved perf/W, though not at the level of Pascal. And that would be that.

But for some reason, every mouthpiece at AMD decide to promote a feature where it truly sucks.

Like an overclocker's dream, the negative tone of 480 reactions is one that could have been completely avoided.

Maybe it's a process issue and maybe they thought in December that it was solvable between early silicon and launch. Well, maybe that's a good lesson too about why you keep your mouth shut until you're closer to launch.

 

I read the same predictions 7 years ago

 

Typical AMD, IMHO. Do a bunch of stuff right, then one or two things that just leave you scratching your head. Really though, for the desktop market, I imagine price is still > *. So maybe they can gain some market share and even make some money.

 

The PCIe certification actually might be forgiving on short-lived wobbles above 150W, with a somewhat generous spirit as to how long is too long. If the significant overdraw on the PCIe slot is consistent and to the magnitude Tomshardware measured, it might be too much.
Could the way it's being measured be throwing off the boot-time calibration?

On the glass half-full side: if that means that upmarket GPUs get past the 4-engine architectural limit of prior GCN versions and the scaling is maintained, then that might mean there's a possibility of getting past that long-lived plateau.

 

Really? Cause the predictions I remember reading the last 7 years was all about CPU software rendering taking over. Then again those were all comments by Nick or Sweeney.

 

I was going to make a very mean joke, but I'll refrain.

 

If customers do feel like expectations were poorly managed, then AMD is certainly partially responsible for that. They were the ones comparing it to the 4870.

 

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/radeon-rx-480-test/12/

Was this posted here already? ComputerBase got better performance by undervolting their sample

 

Referring to just the price Id say. But should have been made clearer.


Regarding some reviewers noticing a power draw above and beyond the 150w rating of the board, did you notice anything similar in your testing?

 

A very foolish thing to do, when the essence of the 4870 was its unexpected nature.

 

I followed their link to the article.
I liked the style of that article's die shot.

 

so far 7 sites have seen this where power goes above the 150 watts max. I'm sure there will be more. This doesn't seem to be a one off occurrence.

 

Well it was unexpected because nV didn't innovate much with their line.