Bondrewd
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Yea.
Who's gonna pay $1.5k a 120 CU Radeon?
They just drop N32 which is a lot less broken and et voila.
AMD RX 7900XTX and RX 7900XT Reviews
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Does it perform as good as the 4090 cause people seem to be buying a lot of those
It would need to hit 3.2Ghz to reach 4080 RT performance, and that's probably only in more simple RT games
edit: either way to me in the "mainstream" class even if it did reach 4080 performance levels in RT i wouldn't spend that much money to have some RT'ed gaming at 60fps or less but upscaled, the hw and api is just not there yet, im part of the those who think it was introduced too early, 2 manufacturing nodes too soon and limited flexibility by both hw and api, not to mention even game dev's are still in testing grounds trying to resort to all tricks they can come up with just to achieve native playable results without resorting to upscaling and limited to 2 ray bounces for performance reasons (ignoring other cache sampling optimizations that can only go so far), i'll rather hang on with a 6700xt/3060ti price range until 3nm cards arrive in 2 to 3 years and both the API, S/W and HW ecosystem matured.
edit: either way to me in the "mainstream" class even if it did reach 4080 performance levels in RT i wouldn't spend that much money to have some RT'ed gaming at 60fps or less but upscaled, the hw and api is just not there yet, im part of the those who think it was introduced too early, 2 manufacturing nodes too soon and limited flexibility by both hw and api, not to mention even game dev's are still in testing grounds trying to resort to all tricks they can come up with just to achieve native playable results without resorting to upscaling and limited to 2 ray bounces for performance reasons (ignoring other cache sampling optimizations that can only go so far), i'll rather hang on with a 6700xt/3060ti price range until 3nm cards arrive in 2 to 3 years and both the API, S/W and HW ecosystem matured.
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Bondrewd
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The entire point is that it was supposed to clock that or higher instead of what it does now.
Those are RDNA2 clocks on a trimmed WGP with a shrink that has lotta knobs for speed.
It's a joke.
They made a nice improvement in RT. The rasterization performance is less than expected, but still good. The COD and Warzone performance is amazing. What I don't understand is the power consumption. It's a hog, and I was expecting it to be a more efficient architecture. The price isn't looking as disruptive as it seemed during the announcement.
Bondrewd
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The. WGPs. Are. Broken.
Sir it's broken.
Don't touch N31 and you're gucci.
gamervivek
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If this guy's not faking it nor using LN2, then it looks like AMD have fubared things quite badly.
A properly functioning N32 could come dangerously close to the 7900XT/XTX, so where do they price it without making the 7900 irrelevant?
Bondrewd
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It's real.
It's very easy to make it run 3.7 (VBIOS limit) in lighter OCL loads.
649 just like 6800XT and engage winning.
Current N31 is made to become irrelevant once non-FUBAR bits crawl out.
How so?
Silent_Buddha
Legend
Will see, not going to get my hopes up, but if it's close to 7900 XT at that price and a FAR more sane power consumption, I might be tempted. Although I'll probably wait for the product that is the next step down from that one. Also, still waiting to see the rest of NV's product stack as well and if there is anything sanely priced with reasonable (for me) performance.
Regards,
SB
Bondrewd
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Something in the SIMDs or VRF goes utterly sad under heavier loads.
Bondrewd
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It was/is kinda the point.
But is it something at the architecture level design and was missed during simulations or something related to the manufacturing process? Or a mix of both? It's seems one of those "how could anyone not catch this" situations.
At 350W? That seems unlikely.
Bondrewd
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Pretty sure logic design issues.
My man you don't even know how Intel does stuff to say that.
Post-Si is every bit as important as Pre-Si.
It was the target.
The one they missed by a lot on N31.
Performance is about in line with what I expected, power consumption and efficiency is not, however.
Look at those multi-monitor and video playback power consumption numbers:
www.techpowerup.com
103w just sitting there with a few monitors of varying refresh rates attached!
Even in TPU's 'Vsync 60hz' graph which tries to show 'typical' power consumption playing a game where the GPU isn't running flat out, but just at one specific performance target, the entire 3000 series on 8nm including the 3090ti draws less power than the 7900XTX.
Look at those multi-monitor and video playback power consumption numbers:
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Review - Disrupting the RTX 4080
Navi 31 is here! The new $999 Radeon RX 7900 XTX in this review is AMD's new flagship card based on the wonderful chiplet technology that made the Ryzen Effect possible. In our testing we can confirm that the new RX 7900 XTX is indeed faster than the GeForce RTX 4080, but only with RT disabled.
103w just sitting there with a few monitors of varying refresh rates attached!
Even in TPU's 'Vsync 60hz' graph which tries to show 'typical' power consumption playing a game where the GPU isn't running flat out, but just at one specific performance target, the entire 3000 series on 8nm including the 3090ti draws less power than the 7900XTX.
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