AMD Radeon RDNA2 Navi (RX 6500, 6600, 6700, 6800, 6900 XT)

[DavidGraham]

On a laptop GPU?

Yeah, Holly shit, I know right!
People have been gaming on laptops with max visuals for ages, they have been doing content creation and rendering on laptops too, welcome to the 21st century.

Too bad most of them have horrific perf everywhere thus basically useless.

Too bad you are out of touch with reality, if you call NVIDIA's current performance in RT bad, then what do you call AMD's?

in a world of HRR panels being shoehorned everywhere gaming.

Now you are just grasping at straws here, the only games that require HRR monitors are e-sport titles.

Idk, no one cares about anudda eurojank game anymore.

What does people care for when testing games at max settings then?

Nah, they'll just feel the end coming.
Bask in the rays of sunlight for it is the end that is coming.

Yeah, just like the fairy tale of competitive RT performance, amazing power effeciency, incredible laptop offerings, amazing expected market share gains .. none of which has materialized in any shape or form.

 

[DegustatoR]

This thread is about RDNA2

Which doesn't have better perf/watt than Ampere, doesn't equal it in RT and doesn't seem to present any threat to Nv GPUs whatsoever anywhere at all.
That's the harsh reality of current day at least.
Now please continue with the fairy tales.

 

[Albuquerque]

Wait, so hold on.. "your darkest hour" is in relation to what exactly? The Ampere cards? Is that what is being insinuated here?

Apparently you aren't old enough to remember the FX5800 series of cards, back when AMD ATI was killing it with the Radeon 9000-series cards. That was most likely NV's darkest hour, to be sure. Hot, loud, powerhungry cards that performed poorly out of the box, overclocked poorly, and suffered from a lot of driver shortcuts to try to alleviate performance woes (and instead just pissed people off.

The ampere line has nothing to do, nothing at all, with NVIDIA's "darkest hour" by any stretch of a rational person's imagination.

 

[Bondrewd]

Wait, so hold on.. "your darkest hour" is in relation to what exactly?

What comes next.
NV skewed client product timings a bit.
Will be very-not-fun and all.

 

[Albuquerque]

What comes next.
NV skewed client product timings a bit.
Will be very-not-fun and all.

Ok, I'll bite: what comes next and for which company?

And how are you knowledgeable about precisely what is coming next, since you do not work for either of those two companies?

 

[Deleted member 13524]

I see a concerted effort to trollbait into a ban B3D's best ever source for upcoming hardware, and it saddens me to see it coming to fruition.

@Bondrewd please stop this. You're giving them exactly what they want.
Just use the ignore button. I see you keep posting replies to users I put on my ignore list years ago. They tried the same with me. Ganging up on one guy to push for irrational behavior is what they do best.

 

[PSman1700]

Ganging up on one guy to push for irrational behavior is what they do best.

Sony fans are experts on this

Wait, so hold on.. "your darkest hour" is in relation to what exactly? The Ampere cards? Is that what is being insinuated here?

Apparently you aren't old enough to remember the FX5800 series of cards, back when AMD ATI was killing it with the Radeon 9000-series cards. That was most likely NV's darkest hour, to be sure. Hot, loud, powerhungry cards that performed poorly out of the box, overclocked poorly, and suffered from a lot of driver shortcuts to try to alleviate performance woes (and instead just pissed people off.

The ampere line has nothing to do, nothing at all, with NVIDIA's "darkest hour" by any stretch of a rational person's imagination.

I miss the year 2003, back then we had leaps in games like nothing else nowadays. HL2 E3 had people really gobsmacked.

 

[Albuquerque]

I don't know who Bondrewd is, and I personally A: haven't participated in this thread until now and B: am genuinely curious "what is coming next" in terms of equating it to NVIDIA's "darkest hour."

Honestly, competition is good for all of us. I'm not of the opinion that NV is so very far ahead of AMD today, the 6900FX is a really compelling card in my view. If AMD had their competitor for DLSS ready for us to consume, I think they'd have achieved parity with NV's best offerings. All of that said, NV isn't anywhere near a "darkest hour" compared to their history. Saying so just seems like unnecessary hyperbole.

It's unfortunate AMD even more limited in GPU shipments than NV at least partially linked to their deals with both Sony and Microsoft for the consoles. I mean, great for their business surely, but sucks for us poor consumers who want a piece.

 

[Bondrewd]

Ok, I'll bite: what comes next and for which company?

Nice stuff for both but one comes fair bit before the other.

I see a concerted effort to trollbait into a ban B3D's best ever source for upcoming hardware, and it saddens me to see it coming to fruition.

I like good fun.

back then we had leaps in games like nothing else nowadays

I'm waiting for proper SSD-powered open-worlds now.

NVIDIA's "darkest hour."

Not really nV's; his.
But NV's too in some way.

It's unfortunate AMD even more limited in GPU shipments than NV at least partially linked to their deals with both Sony and Microsoft for the consoles

Eh, console just chew wafers.
AMD's super-limited in substrates now.

Oh I hope that AMD will manage to get at least half a year of solid RDNA3 supply

No chance, will fly off the shelves with the same AMD YES battlecry much like CZN laptops did.

Cause otherwise it will likely be a repeat of RDNA2 vs Ampere again.

Nah, perf delta too great.

 

[DegustatoR]

NV skewed client product timings a bit.
Will be very-not-fun and all.

Oh I hope that AMD will manage to get at least half a year of solid RDNA3 supply prior to whatever comes to gaming after Ampere. It's been what? Nearly ten years since they've managed to outpace Nv in time to market?
Cause otherwise it will likely be a repeat of RDNA2 vs Ampere again.

 

[Albuquerque]

I guess the "darkest hour" thing is really just hyperbole after all. Sigh.

Anyway, I just came in here to read more about their competition in the DLSS space. And instead I get to read a bunch of single-line buckshot-from-a-shotgun replies. More sigh.

 

[PSman1700]

I don't know who Bondrewd is

He has been banned before, and i think you'd be able to guess why.

Honestly, competition is good for all of us.

Yes, we need competition, and so far we have not got much from AMD's side. But, RDNA3 is going to just do that, offer more and better competition.

 

[Bondrewd]

we need competition

You ain't getting one.

RDNA3 is going to just do that, offer more and better competition.

No.
Nope.
It's not made to.

 

[PSman1700]

You ain't getting one.

No.
Nope.

So, why do you think AMD will leave the scene? They where on a good route atleast.

 

[Bondrewd]

So, why do you think AMD will leave the scene?

Uh, kinda?
They will win, and the winner takes all.

They where on a good route atleast.

Yeah, ultimate victory is how the lads work.

 

[PSman1700]

Uh, kinda?
They will win, and the winner takes all.

Yeah, ultimate victory is how the lads work.

Ok your not serious at all.

 

[Bondrewd]

Ok your not serious at all.

Idk chief, dudes already won CPUs and the scale of winning will just get comical next year.

 

[trinibwoy]

unnecessary hyperbole

Welcome to the thread. We did this same dance a year, maybe 2 years ago? Of course it came to nothing in the end.

 

[Albuquerque]

Idk chief, dudes already won CPUs and the scale of winning will just get comical next year.

Well, this isn't so cut and dry in real life.

AMD is doing a killer job in the CPU space from a technology perspective, no argument at all. However, they only peaked at a ~22% marketshare during Q3'20 and have actually slid by a couple percentage points in both Q4'20 and again in Q1'21. There's a paywall blocking direct access to Mercury Research's original data on this, however CPU Market Q1 2021: AMD's Fastest Growth in Servers Against Intel in 15 Years | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com) has it reasonably well summarized with actionable data.

So while AMD is certainly the "winner" of the technology in modern CPUs right now, they are incapable of "taking all" against Intel.

AMD has found themselves behind NV multiple times throughout the years on the graphics front; it hasn't made them disappear. I'm not convinced the next-gen of RDNA3 vs Ampere.Next is going to spell any more demise for AMD than it has in the past. Sure, AMD isn't selling the market top halo product, yet they still find ways to sell plenty of GPUs for plenty of profit.

 

[Bondrewd]

Well, this isn't so cut and dry in real life.

It pretty much is; the only thing standing between me and my Milans is basically two naps.
You just buy their stuff if you can.
And if you can't, then you wait.

However, they only peaked at a ~22% marketshare during Q3'20 and have actually slid by a couple percentage points in both Q4'20 and again in Q1'21

Yeah, Intel filled out the lowend orders.
AMD still gained chungus enough amount of premium share to get C&G 10% up revenue QoQ.

they are incapable of "taking all" against Intel.

It's merely a question of them scaling up their supply chain enough while we at large wait in some kinda soviet bread lines for our shipments of Milan/Genoa/you-name-it.

I'm not convinced the next-gen of RDNA3 vs Ampere

Good-good-good-good-good.

Sure, AMD isn't selling the market top halo product

That's what they want and what they will do.
Better, an ULTRA HALO product.

yet they still find ways to sell plenty of GPUs for plenty of profit.

Nah, their AIC share is up 1% sequentially; it's a CPU house this year more or less now.