AMD: R9xx Speculation

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  1. mczak

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    You sure of that? The text from that leak doesn't mention ROPs, and who knows who made up the table.
     
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  3. mczak

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    Yes but read my quote again and you'll see I trust this information much less than the rest of the leaked info...
     
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    Wouldn't that make sense if the 5770 were to get renamed into the 6750 or such?

    Normally,
    xx90 = 1.1x xx80
    xx80 => 1.2x xx50 would be the case.

    I don't see cutting ROPs as to any benefit for selling the card- voltages are probably an easier way to go. This card itself however still serves to sell 6850s in the end.

    Plus, while cutting down on perf/W on an existing design is always bad, keep in mind that they're doing it on an SKU that has one of the highest metrics in the market now.
     
  5. Alexko

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    Sorry, I was a little too quick. But as far as I know, we only know about the 6790 from NordicHardware, don't we? So why should we accept that it exists, but doubt that it actually is what they say it is?

    I guess we'll know soon enough, but I can only hope that AMD has learned its lesson and won't unleash a new 5830.
     
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    Do we?

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    They most likely also use the 6870 PCB to save costs, hence two 6-pin slots. Maybe they're declaring 150W to justify them and let others measure the true consupmtion during testing? But I agree, would be to close to a 6850 and at the alleged 130$ price tag would be a steal. So there have to be some caveats we are unaware of yet - maybe the higher powerconsumption? Or indeed cut ROPs. Just a week to find out. :)
     
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    Some have found HD 5830 to be quite a bargain too, others were only reporting about baffled looks after the release of the card.

    edit:
    Just looked 5770/1G and 6850 in our local price search engine up. Between 95 and 128 Euros respectively for the cheapest available cards, there's not much room for the 6790 to fit in. I've got the feeling since quite while actually, that the sub 150 EUR market is really densely populated as of late. Same with CPUs, but there a little longer. I really don't understand the motivation behind it.
     
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    You might not like buying these parts, but if no one bought them the cost of your fully enabled part would be higher.
     
  10. mczak

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    Well I think they could have got the information (which is in the text) and made up the table themselves. Plus, if the leak source is just using GPU-Z for the information then ROP count might not be correct.
    There's always hope :).
    Even if it has only 16 ROPs, it could still be quite ok (certainly enough to beat HD5770 and GTX 560Ti) as long as AMD has fixed the problem that the 16 ROPs act like the card only has half the bandwidth.
     
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    I hope not, they still have a shot in this fight against NVIDIA!
     
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    I'm sure we could put together a B3D cheerleading team to revitalize DAAMIT if need be. I volunteer Digi. :)
     
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    What do you mean exactely? that they still have room @40nm to push something more competitive vs Nvidia actual offering?
     
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    "tapped out" is a term from wrestling, and some martial arts, whereby a person who is pinned to the ground, or otherwise immobilized, will tap the floor to signal they are giving up the round.

    I think "tapped out" can also refer to something having been emptied. An oil well can be tapped out and so can a maple tree, of its syrup.

    A person who is bereft of funds, broke, might refer to them self as being tapped out.

    A person who is exhausted might say it too, as in the context of their energy level.

    So I think we are seeing a play on words here, the difference between taped out and tapped out.
     
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    :lol: Ok I finally get it, Squilliam also made a joke about it in another thread which I did not get either.
     
  17. Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

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    "Taped out" comes from when the final plans for manufacturing ICs were sent to the foundry on magnetic tape. Although magnetic tape is rarely used any more, the phrase is still around.

    It's a similar thing when a software company says a game has "gone gold" because of the gold master that used to be burned and sent to the manufacturing plant.

    AMD isn't "tapped out", they "taped out".
     
  18. Babel-17

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    Yes, but there was some humor injected into the thread as a typo in a link read "they tapped out". So the joke was, paraphrasing, "Don't give up AMD!" :)

    Nice explanation/refresher though.

    The play on words: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1540227&postcount=7312
     
  19. Alexko

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    I didn't expect my little joke to generate so much activity!

    Anyway:

    http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...n-hd-6790-based-on-barts-le-with-800-sps.html
     
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    Traditionaly, one site doesn't get the memo of the launch being moved and gets to get some clicks for a few hours:

    http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/g...-6790-test-hlavniho-rivala-gtx-550-ti?start=1

    Won't bother to save up all the pics, so here's a quick run down:

    16 ROPs :( , 6870 pcb, consumption on par with 6850, 149$ :(, gets to fight with a 460 768mb, so it's more like on 460SE level.

    Awaiting price drops...
     
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