AMD: R9xx Speculation

Discussion in 'Architecture and Products' started by Lukfi, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. larrabee

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    not to turn this political but that's a very marxist thing to say. also i would like some putative research on how many people buy graphics cards based on the name because this needs to be backed up. personally i dont pity people for being ignorant such as buying something based on a name. humans tend to judge by appearances too often and for some reason they never learn to use a better method.
     
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    If I say that 6800 = Barts, and Cayman is 6700, can I come back? :???:
     
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    Spending the time and effort to derive an unknown benefit sometimes isn't worth it. Hence, brand loyalty was born. Don't underestimate the value of past satisfaction.
     
  4. UniversalTruth

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    Cayman is suitable for a better, more dangerous, higher performance part. I can't see why they would call that mainstream kind of a productie Cayman. It doesn't make any sense.
     
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    Internal use only, its not like they are marketing the products under those names.
     
  6. UniversalTruth

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    This lack of information. Ok, I understand they don't want a negative impact on the 5000 series sales. But... that also means there is no negative impact on Nvidia sales... Right?
     
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    Doesn't matter if AMD's current products are already having a negative impact on Nvidia sales. You don't want to canibalise your current products when you don't have to.
     
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    It's not like there's long to wait.
     
  9. caveman-jim

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    We have to wait until November, or longer! And there are four full weekends left in this month! aarrrgghh!!
     
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    You have to wait till November for what exactly? more information -> easier communication.
     
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    I guess we are few and far between...
     
  12. racca

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    So why don't AMD just call Cayman HD 6100, and whatever for HTPC 6990?
    It's just a NUMBER, right?

    The whole numbering system is to make judging performance by the name EASIER. ie, 6870 is (much, not NO, not marginally) better than 5870.

    I would be fine with BartsXT being called 6870, if it is at least 10% faster than 5870. -- I can't rule out the possibility yet.
     
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    But maybeq AMD pr&marketing sees this as a way to fool customers and get "free money".
    Is AMD so desperate?
     
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    Without pricing its a nonsense. They can make 6800 the same speed or slower than 5800 and sell it for example with a 30% lower price. Its the same as it would be faster and cost same.
    There are significatly more people upgrading from slower cards than from 5850 or 5870.
     
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    ... or the reson for 67** cards launching a bit later is actually rather similar to the reason why 4770 launched a few months after 48**? :roll:

    Don't read "news" stuff like that vr-zone crap as if it was made of pure facts. Golden rule of rumor-deciphering: In most cases, someone in the know leaked one very specific detail -and someone not in the know picked up on it and wraped a whole (mainly fictional) "story" around it so it became "readable".

    They probably just heard: "HD67** will come a bit later, not ready yet" - and all the rest of the babble is just made up.

    ====================

    :!:
     
  16. Mianca

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    Funny thing is, he actually didn't write "people who still think Barts is 67**" - but "people who still think Barts is 6750/6770" ... he even doubled the 6750 at first. Sigmund Freud would have found such a typo very interesting.
     
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    That's what I've noticed as well :smile:.

    Regardless, we need more leaks please! :twisted:
     
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    I suppose, that the "X" is used here just like a replacement of some number, but what if really AMD calls the dual-GPU cards Radeon HD 6X50 and 6X70?

    e.g...
    Barts: 6850 / 6870
    Cayman: 6950 / 6970
    Antilles: 6X50 / 6X70

    X means 10 (that's more than 9) and it would also show, that the model is CrossFire based. It wouldn't be the first time they used X instead of 10...
     
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    Makes sense, but this name is harder to pronounce, therefore I doubt it. IMHO Antilles will still be 69xx series, or for argument sake, keep Antilles altogether, I like this name :smile:
     
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