Advanced Audio Technologies (HRTF, Dolby Atmos, etc) *echo*

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  1. Cyan

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    That's excellent news, hopefully we can tell us how well it works. I have a good sense of hearing and sound is really important for me.

    I can hear this sound, for instance, which only people with good hearing can actually hear.

     
  2. milk

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    Are you kidding me? I can hear that with my eyes closed!
     
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    Ummmm, if someone can't hear that, holy hell. That was the most annoying sound I've listened to in years.

    Regards,
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    My hearing isn't exactly world class, and that sound was easy to hear. I've punished my ears at concerts, far more than the average person.
     
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    Yeah, that's well within hearing range of the typical adult. I have played with tone generators on a mobile and found kids can hear frequencies lost to me which, though I know it happens, still was a bit of a revelation. Also means you can bug them with a high frequency pitch without being bothered yourself. :twisted:

    It's not so much frequency range but all round sensitivity that matters. The worst, paralleling the above, is when you have electrical equipment with a whine. But quiet everything down enough and you end up hearing your own tinnitus anyway. :-|
     
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    I'm over 40 and could hear that no problem, but Atmos and DTS-X are more about ability to sense the direction of sound, not loudness and frequency.
    I'm not totally sold on the extra height speakers myself.
    I haven't had the chance to listen to a proper Atmos od DTS-X setup, only hava e Dolby PLII-x/Audyssey DSX at home and really haven't been able to hear much difference.
    I know it's a matrixed solution and not really on par with a proper discrete height channel mix, and my height speakers are some small Orb speakers not totally suited for the job. I'm just not that sure for many non-enthusiasts' Atmos or DTS-X is that important, and if you're serious with the h-t hobby it's probable you already have a dedicated 4K Blu-ray player that has Atmos And DTS-X decoding anyway. Setting up those at least two extra speakers so that they integrate well in the room is not that easy.
     
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    Yer a wizzard Cyan!!!
     
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    It's an enthusiast format really. Most people running sound bars and even most HTIB's wouldn't benefit from TrueHD and DTS-MA vs regular DD and DTS. That's without taking into account any room correction or audio calibration.
     
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    My theory is that enthusiasts won't benefit from it either, they'll just convince themselves that they have after they've sunk a whole bunch of money into it.
     
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    I guess you're one of the lucky ones who hasn't heard me over the microphone. :shocked:

    Can't we settle this like real gamers over some Halo 3 Capture The Flag on Sandbox?
     
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    I just bought a new (actually it technically is a refurb) receiver, since I needed to upgrade to pass 4K and HDR anyway, and sprung for the Atmos height speakers also. It's quite easy for me to A/B TrueHD to Atmos on my HTPC by turning bitstreaming on and off and I can tell you definitively that there is a difference. The effect is not at all subtle, at least not when playing back an Atmos-mixed soundtrack. I'm not sure that I'm sold on the effectiveness of Dolby's upmixer yet and I haven't had a chance to try DTS's Neural:X upmixer as Denon haven't released the firmware update to enable DTS:X yet, though, so there's an argument to be made about lack of native content making it not worthwhile *right now*.
     
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    Whether he realizes it or not, Scott needs positional audio. Gotta know where that BF Vietnam tank blasting "Fortunate Son" is coming from.
     
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    Not with 343 massacring Halo: MCC. Plus I don't have 2TB of free space for all the patches :(
     
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    lol! The BF Xbox Live days were awesome. As long as Scott was in a tank and not on foot....Otherwise it was a game of Saving Private Zunder...
     
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    That might have saved homerdog that one time.
     
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    Positional audio for stereo headphones is a lot more interesting to me, than a setup that requires special atmos speakers with top-firing drivers, or mounting speakers on my ceiling.
     
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    How does that work? Did it see its way on consumer goods?
    I remember a sound file once demonstrating the ability to give a surround sound impression through stereo and it was awesome. Perhaps for technical reasons or to protect the market of home theaters is the reason?
     
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    Why arent they using this technique in more media? It is impressive
     
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