A comparison of PS3 and 360 as media players

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/3005..._Service_Expanding_On_PlayStation_Network.php

Sony's Crackle video service is still low profile, but media reports indicate an expansion across the PlayStation Network for the high-budget, $1 million per webisode video content service.

A recent report from The New York Times cites analysts and Sony executives regarding plans to expand online video portal Crackle's presence across its PS3-based PlayStation Network.

The New York Times notes: "Analysts point out that Crackle could become the primary entertainment channel for Sony’s PlayStation Network, a fast-growing video service that pumps games and online content into the living room via PlayStation 3 consoles."

It also comments: "Crackle already has a limited presence on the PlayStation Network, but Sony executives confirm that an expansion is in the works."

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EDIT: The New York Times article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/business/media/23crackle.html?_r=1
 
Sony added new DRM protection to PS3:
http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-national/sony-adds-new-drm-protection-to-ps3-to-combat-pirates

Cinavia was added earlier in the year, but it's now an automatic download on the PS3 via firmware 3.41. Depsite the feature being present in the Spring months, with it now an automatic download on the PS3, it looks like video piracy will have a tougher time passing on the PS3 when it comes to select videos.

What Cinavia DRM Protection technology will do is create an audio watermark that will target pirates for movies. Detailed on the official site, Cinavia works in a way that it compares the "source of the audio to the format in which a movie was released, and if the watermarked audio source detects a difference, the movie will either be mute or not work at all."

How it works...
 
Looks like there are rumors of a new video/music service for PSN next year. Evidently they are unveiling it tomorrow at IFA technology show in Berlin.

Source: Financial Times(subscription required) via Kotaku

Tommy McClain

Engadget thinks the news has something to do with the newly outed $130 Sony Netbox...

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/sonys-netbox-streams-netflix-youtube-and-other-internet-stuff/

Hmm. Real interesting there.

Tommy McClain
 

http://www.1up.com/news/report-sony-introduce-itunes-competitor

Sony may be set to announce a major iTunes competitor tomorrow that will run on its videogame consoles, according to an online report.

An article by the Financial Times (warning: registration required) citing "sources in the media industry" says that the service, which covers both music and video and is subscription-based, will be unveiled at tomorrow's IFA technology show in Berlin.

May be too little, too late... unless they can somehow integrate them into games. SingStar would be a good start.
 
http://www.1up.com/news/report-sony-introduce-itunes-competitor

May be too little, too late... unless they can somehow integrate them into games. SingStar would be a good start.

Hehe, it´s actually very facinating how the record industry keeps on shooting themselves in the head. Why they haven´t produced a global unified online service for buying non DRM music online is simply amazing. And they still block some music on youtube, one day it´s open the next day is closed. I just ignore it now and look for something else.
 
Why not put all that box's functionality onto the PS3 as well to reach more customers? They already have the PSN+ subscription thing going, it just makes sense to add the video/music service subscription as well.
 
Why not put all that box's functionality onto the PS3 as well to reach more customers?

Rumours say they will do it, its not just a settopbox service. It took some time Sony to realize and bring corporate level online media service. Lets hope they get good content licensing deals and distribute service around the globe (yeah right like movie studios want it to happen....).
These same sources claim that Sony will use the PlayStation 3 and PSP consoles as a launch point for the new service, with other Sony devices including Bravia TVs, mobile phones, Vaio computers and Sony's Ericsson mobile phones to follow.
 
Why next year ? Are they cutting a different deal from the rest ?

EDIT: Nevermind, probably video side negotiation.
 
IFA conference notes: http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/live-from-sony-ifa-2010-press-event/

11:13AM ... and the PS3 will get its 3D Blu-ray upgrade this October.

EDIT: Oh wait, there's more to it:

Qriocity. It's the service mentioned by Azbat above.

11:49AM Sony is bringing the Qriocity (pronounced "curiosity") on demand music and streaming video service to Europe this fall.

11:51AM When you rent a movie (SD or HD) on Qriocity you get 14 days to watch it, and once you start watching it you have 48 hours to finish it. No word on pricing just yet.

11:53AM Video on demand is already out on the US, but now Sony is adding Qriocity's "cloud music service," which will be instantly available on existing Bravia Internet devices, with portable Sony devices hopping on board in the future.

11:54AM In the future Qriocity will be a service available through 3rd parties as well, though it's not clear how that will work.

Since the PSN ToA mentioned Qriocity since a few months ago, I assume we will get it ("cloud music service") too ?
[size=-2]Part of PS+, yes or no ?[/size]

"Qriocity will be a service available through 3rd parties" may mean private label or compatible with 3rd party devices (e.g., PC).
 
IFA conference notes: http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/live-from-sony-ifa-2010-press-event/



EDIT: Oh wait, there's more to it:

Qriocity. It's the service mentioned by Azbat above.



Since the PSN ToA mentioned Qriocity since a few months ago, I assume we will get it ("cloud music service") too ?
[size=-2]Part of PS+, yes or no ?[/size]

"Qriocity will be a service available through 3rd parties" may mean private label or compatible with 3rd party devices (e.g., PC).

A multi-platform video/music service is definitely the way to go, IMO. Rent a movie from the service, and watch it on any Sony device that has that service is a nice draw (SE Phones, PSPs, PS3s, TVs, PCs). Better still, purchase media and watch/stream/download it on any of those devices. A Zune like subscription service would also be nice to have integrated with it as well (as an option).
 
They need to make it available to iPad and iPhone, then I may consider it. My whole family can enjoy the service.
 
Indeed. Sony need an open platform where operhaps they get smaller cut, but it also means they don't alienate non-sony customers. If other media TV CE companies buy into it, it becomes a broad standard, iTunes-for-everyone, only with Sony getting a slice of every sale. That has to be the better way to go now that the whole 'living room battle' has been blown wide open with internet enabled CE devices and Apple making a late yet profound appearance.

Such a platform would start on PS devices to get userbase, and then wave attractive results at other CE device runners saying "look what you're missing." I suppose a percentage of sales would have to go to the device manufacturer supporting the app. Samsung's reasons to include Qriocity (lousy name) in its TVs are going to be much stronger if they get a percentage than if they get nothing. So you'd have a sale, with x% going to Sony, y% going to the platform holder (Sony again in the case of Sony devices), and the rest going to the artist/publisher. As the same content would be useable on all Qriocity enabled devices (really lousy name), buyers won't have to worry about conflicting DRM which is an issue locking people into platforms at the moment.

Edit : And the chances of Apple allowing a direct rival to iTunes on iOS devices is non-existent! If Qriocity does well, I imagine they'll look to make iTunes avaialble for non Apple devices even and go head-to-head.
 
Qriocity is going to be great. I saw some previews and outlines last year when the whole lot was called Sony Online Services. It just needs time roll out effectively and build up a decent content library. The killer app is third party access. Qriocity will be free to licence and any third party can apply for one to use on their device. Sony are going to make an Android and ChromeOS app as well.

Edit: The reason it is so appealing to third parties is that Sony have effectively done all of the content negotiation on behalf of CE companies which are usually very slow about this stuff and usually have little on offer for the content companies other than another different outlet for their media with absolutely no market synergy. I think we will see it roll out on Japanese CE devices by the end of next year and Korean CE sometime in 2012 when they get tired of not having it in their line up. It is great because Qriocity is account based rather than device based like other services, so you can access the content across multiple devices.
 
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It also made it to the blog, even if there aren't that many details on it. But the premise seems very sound:
The premise is very sound. It's what we were talking about before PS3's release, although perhaps not as a 3rd party system. Maybe this explains Sony's extremely slow rollout, because they had a change of vision from being the Sony Service to the Media Service?

Although the name just keeps getting worse: "Music Unlimited Powered by Qriocity."
 
Ha ha, I think Music Unlimited is the name of Sony's service. Qriocity is the platform. [size=-2]Sounds a little corny[/size]
 
More details here:
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2010/09/...service-will-be-compatible-with-many-devices/

Available by year’s end, “Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity” will give music lovers access to millions of songs stored and synchronized through the cloud. “Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity” will initially be available across Sony’s 2010 models of network-enabled BRAVIA TVs, Blu-ray Disc players, Blu-ray Home Theater systems, as well as PlayStation 3 computer entertainment systems and VAIOs and other personal computers

... so we may get it by end of this year ? (not next year)

“We are excited to offer our customers high quality, cloud-based entertainment experiences across many of Sony’s network-enabled devices,” said Kazuo Hirai, President of Networked Products & Services Group, Sony Corporation. “Services ‘powered by Qriocity’ will revolutionize the way that users play, listen, watch, share, communicate, learn, discover and create their digital entertainment content.”

Kaz Hirai seems to say Qriocity is not only a platform for consuming music. They are also interested in all aspects, including creation. They should first pipe the content into LBP and SingStar. Then I'm all ears. ^_^
 
Kaz Hirai seems to say Qriocity is not only a platform for consuming music. They are also interested in all aspects, including creation. They should first pipe the content into LBP and SingStar. Then I'm all ears. ^_^

Qriocity will replace PSN Store eventually. Though games and DLC may always be sold under the PSN Store banner (at least on PS3 and PSP). It would be awesome if you could stream music while in game though, or sync your Qriocity account with SingStar/RB/Guitar Hero.
 
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