a bit of Nintendo Revolution info has possibly leaked

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RUMOR #2: Nintendo has shown its next-generation console to a shareholders' meeting in Japan.

Source: Nintendo fan site 4 Color Rebellion.

The official story: "Nintendo does not comment on rumors, speculation, or napkin sketches."-- Nintendo rep.

What we heard: Previously all but unheard of, 4 Color Rebellion became the center of a lot of attention this week when it published an account from someone who claimed to be present during a Nintendo shareholders meeting. At said meeting, officials from the House of Mario reportedly showed off the next-gen "Revolution" console. The witness said the final name of the console will be the "Nintendo 21," and it will hit the market at the end of this year. It will have a "Home Game function" co-developed with Kyocera which uses an IEEE protocol to wirelessly "locate and communicate with other Nintendo 21s in the vicinity" as well as unspecified handheld game devices. The 21 will also have a pressure-sensitive controller which allows for DS-style rubbing on either the buttons or the grip. For media, the console will use a two-sided disc, 5.4GB-capacity disc with a UMD-esque shell case, and will be inserted into the top of the GameCube-esque machine. The unit will also have a digital A/V outputs and sport an N64-esque logo. The witness even drew a picture of what he recalled (pictured), with notations in Japanese. Interesting? Definitely. Authentic? Who knows? Nintendo wouldn’t comment, so it looks like gamers will have to wait until E3 for the 411 on the Nintendo 21.

Bogus or not bogus?: TBD at E3.
[source: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01/28/news_6117482.html ]
 
The idea of buttons made out of Trackpads is cool. But how big would the surface area be for each one and how hard would it be to get used to it?
 
I wouldn't want to be caught by surprise by someone approaching from behind, while I'm sitting on my sofa playing the "Nintendo 21", rubbing my controller.

Seriously, that sounds like a totally crazy idea from Nintendo, but then again, so did the DS when I first heard from it.
But the rubbable areas in the controller could be great for games where you need mouse like control.

It's good if Nintendo manages to differentiate it's next console enough from PS3 and xbox2, which seem to become very similar, and quite traditional in their approaches.
A fun, novel control idea in Nintendo's next console might do the trick and tempt me to buy it before the PS3 is released. And connectivity to a PC monitor is a big plus if I'm to use it as my second console. The limited connectivity in PAL GC (RGP scart and composite) has kept me from buying it, as I really don't want any extra scarts dividers to clutter. All three of the scarts in tv are already occupied, and only one of them is rgb.
If the GC had a s-video cable, I would be able to route it through my AV receiver, as I do with the PS2.
 
Complete & total BS, CR gets their verified news from japanese websites now?
http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=htt.../1106658928/l50

No way would Iwata would approve of a platform design even remotely similar to that of the GC under his watch 1st off. He is very aware of the "purple lunchbox" perception. I expect a much sleeker design, reminiscent of the SP. Also, since when does Nintendo incorporate numbers attached with their consoles? Could be a codename like Dolphin one could assume, but this alone should've tipped anyone off that this was a fake. From Johnnyram at GAF:

-Name of machine is "Nintendo 21"
-Planned for release at end of 2005
<Impossible, exactly where are the dev. kits?
-Medium is 2-sided 8cm disc, 5.4GB capacity, in a shellcase <2.7GB maximum per side? Not even doubling the GCs 1.5GB? How do 3rd parties feel that have already exceeded this data amount this gen?
-Includes "Home Game function" which uses IEEE protocol to locate and communicate with other Nintendo 21s in the vicinity <What distance constitutes "this vicinity?"
-"Home Game function" is free, connect the AC adaptor and the machine talks to nearby Nintendo 21s and "Nintendo Home"s (? could be Form instead of Home - katakana is vague). Save data is stored on the main unit and affects other machines over the network. <Verification of a hard drive?
-"Nintendo Home" machine is like a base station that will be put in many places and uses the PHS network for communication (popular mobile phone network). Will connect to handheld game machines and supports "Home Game function", also sends latest info from Nintendo.
-"Nintendo Home" is being jointly developed with Kyosera.

-Controller is like GC controller but "rubbing" is possible - e.g. you can control movement in a game by rubbing the controller/buttons. Also the controller has a slot. <A slot in the console, or on the controller itself?
-The whole controller is pressure sensitive. So rubbing can be done with the buttons or via grip.
-Digital outputs included
<LOL

Come on now, some of it is very plausible as they appear to be taking & expanding upon Chunsoft's Homeland online premise, the new controller interface was known already somewhat, but talk about incomplete & vague for a supposed "info leak" from the actual presentation? Doubtful, here's some more "speculation," & it gets even wilder.

http://www.geek.com.br/modules/noticias/ve...p?id=1940&sec=6
 
IMO these rumours isn't as silly, but they're probably just rumours.

Name of machine is "Nintendo 21"

Could be just code name, because Nintendo 21 inferior compare to Nintendo 64. Should just call it Nintendo Revolution :LOL:

-Planned for release at end of 2005 <Impossible, exactly where are the dev. kits?

Maybe all Nintendo launch line up ?

-Medium is 2-sided 8cm disc, 5.4GB capacity, in a shellcase <2.7GB maximum per side? Not even doubling the GCs 1.5GB?

One side read only, one side writeable, something similar to 64DD ?

-Includes "Home Game function" which uses IEEE protocol to locate and communicate with other Nintendo 21s in the vicinity <What distance constitutes "this vicinity?"
-"Home Game function" is free, connect the AC adaptor and the machine talks to nearby Nintendo 21s and "Nintendo Home"s (? could be Form instead of Home - katakana is vague). Save data is stored on the main unit and affects other machines over the network. <Verification of a hard drive?
-"Nintendo Home" machine is like a base station that will be put in many places and uses the PHS network for communication (popular mobile phone network). Will connect to handheld game machines and supports "Home Game function", also sends latest info from Nintendo.
-"Nintendo Home" is being jointly developed with Kyosera.

These sounds plausible, and aren't bad really if it is true.

-Controller is like GC controller but "rubbing" is possible - e.g. you can control movement in a game by rubbing the controller/buttons. Also the controller has a slot. A slot in the console, or on the controller itself?
-The whole controller is pressure sensitive. So rubbing can be done with the buttons or via grip.

This is plausible too, but its sound hard to use and may cause carpal tunnel problems.
 
Li Mu Bai said:
Complete & total BS, CR gets their verified news from japanese websites now?
http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=htt.../1106658928/l50

No way would Iwata would approve of a platform design even remotely similar to that of the GC under his watch 1st off. He is very aware of the "purple lunchbox" perception. I expect a much sleeker design, reminiscent of the SP. Also, since when does Nintendo incorporate numbers attached with their consoles? Could be a codename like Dolphin one could assume, but this alone should've tipped anyone off that this was a fake. From Johnnyram at GAF:

-Name of machine is "Nintendo 21"
-Planned for release at end of 2005 <Impossible, exactly where are the dev. kits?
-Medium is 2-sided 8cm disc, 5.4GB capacity, in a shellcase <2.7GB maximum per side? Not even doubling the GCs 1.5GB?
-Includes "Home Game function" which uses IEEE protocol to locate and communicate with other Nintendo 21s in the vicinity <What distance constitutes "this vicinity?"
-"Home Game function" is free, connect the AC adaptor and the machine talks to nearby Nintendo 21s and "Nintendo Home"s (? could be Form instead of Home - katakana is vague). Save data is stored on the main unit and affects other machines over the network. <Verification of a hard drive?
-"Nintendo Home" machine is like a base station that will be put in many places and uses the PHS network for communication (popular mobile phone network). Will connect to handheld game machines and supports "Home Game function", also sends latest info from Nintendo.
-"Nintendo Home" is being jointly developed with Kyosera.
-Controller is like GC controller but "rubbing" is possible - e.g. you can control movement in a game by rubbing the controller/buttons. Also the controller has a slot. A slot in the console, or on the controller itself?
-The whole controller is pressure sensitive. So rubbing can be done with the buttons or via grip.
-Digital outputs included
<LOL

Come on now, some of it is plausible as they appear to be taking & expanding upon Chunsoft's Homeland online premise, the new controller interface was known already somewhat, but talk about incomplete & vague for a supposed "info leak" from the actual presentation? Doubtful, here's some more "speculation," & it gets even wilder.

http://www.geek.com.br/modules/noticias/ve...p?id=1940&sec=6
Iwata did approve the DS desing, didn't he ;)
I don't think the "purple lunchbox" design of GC is that bad. By no means is it sleek, but it's cute and compact.

So are Nintendo too (if the rumours for PS3 and xbox2 are true) going for some central server ie "Nintendo Home" system, where you store data and it's wirelessly connected to that "Nintendo 21".
If all three are indeed using a separate server box in addition to the actual game console, then I'm not so sure if I'll be willing to purchase more than one console next gen. Especially if those server units are console specific, i.e you cannot use the PS3 server with "Nintendo 21"
Xbox will likely just use your exsisting PC as a server, but how about Sony and Nintendo. That could be an advantage for xbox2.
 
Great idea.I would like that in every console.

It is a mini multi-player revolution so I expect more from them
 
It would be cool if Revolution had a dynamic OS. Personalisation of the Nintendo DS to the next level, OS upgrades through the purchase of titles, a whole online Nintendo VIP connectivity, built-in or downloadable mini-games, multimedia expansion slot for SD cards, USB sticks and the like,...
 
5.4GB discs?! Get out of here!!!

I don't think 5.4GB 3 inch discs are bad at all. Especially since they'd be cheap so two could be used (10.4GB) in some games if needed. I think people are getting carried away with all the talk of massive disc sizes. I mean what do we really need 25GB gaming discs for anyway?
 
Teasy said:
5.4GB discs?! Get out of here!!!

I don't think 5.4GB 3 inch discs are bad at all. Especially since they'd be cheap so two could be used (10.4GB) in some games if needed. I think people are getting carried away with all the talk of massive disc sizes. I mean what do we really need 25GB gaming discs for anyway?

only really bad if you plan on filling up your games with fmv .

Anyway we don't know if that 5.4gb is single layer or dual layer. If its single then we can see 10.4gb on one disc .
 
jvd said:
Teasy said:
5.4GB discs?! Get out of here!!!

I don't think 5.4GB 3 inch discs are bad at all. Especially since they'd be cheap so two could be used (10.4GB) in some games if needed. I think people are getting carried away with all the talk of massive disc sizes. I mean what do we really need 25GB gaming discs for anyway?

only really bad if you plan on filling up your games with fmv .

Anyway we don't know if that 5.4gb is single layer or dual layer. If its single then we can see 10.4gb on one disc .

If the device is to be backwards compatible with GameCube, it is to expect that the discs might contain less data than HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Don't forget Nintendo never had severe piracy problems with GameCube, so a small disc format might be a good move (except for the lack of multimedia features)...
 
It could be backwards compatible even if it used standard 12cm size discs. Almost all cd and dvd players can play the small cd singles and small dvd discs, that's why the trays have that 8cm indention (sp?) in them.
 
rabidrabbit said:
It could be backwards compatible even if it used standard 12cm size discs. Almost all cd and dvd players can play the small cd singles and small dvd discs, that's why the trays have that 8cm indention (sp?) in them.

Oh, didn't think about that. :oops:

What exactly are the odds Nintendo will opt for a disc medium such as HD-DVD from NEC? If they were to succeed in pressing the costs and keeping the unit backwards compatible, HD-DVD might have some more chances on the market. :)

Wouldn't that be an attractive system? Revolution, GameCube, DVD, HD-DVD & CD playback, possible to hook it up to a pc or television,... :)
 
Nintendo might go hd-dvd movie play back but they might use something special for the game discs .
 
V3 said:
Could be just code name, because Nintendo 21 inferior compare to Nintendo 64. Should just call it Nintendo Revolution :LOL:

Doh! How quickly I've forgotten about the N64 :!: Actually the code name could be Revolution, & the official name Nintendo 21. Since the latter came after the former. A 21st centry platform allusion no doubt, also pointing Nintendo in a new direction perhaps? Iwata has recognized that the market is changing by his own words.

Maybe all Nintendo launch line up ?

No V3. Nintendo must launch with minimally one to two 3rd party titles, if not more. (EA must be onboard) Reginald & Kaplan have been making the prerequisite rounds, calls, visits, etc. in order to acheive this with the western developers. Iwata himself said that Nintendo would be be getting the development kits out to the most talented 3rd parties first & as early as possible, both eastern & western. Instead of making many of them wait, which is exactly what happened with the GC.

One side read only, one side writeable, something similar to 64DD ?

Extremely unlikely V3, probably referring to single sided GB capacity, we really have no idea. Hopefully they will include dual layered as 10.8GB should be more than enough for strictly gaming data, as well as generous FMV. (although Nintendo themselves have never been fond of FMV)

These sounds plausible, and aren't bad really if it is true.

Indeed, though not as comprehensive as XBL, depending on its scope & range of features, not a bad substitute in the least. On top of that its a free service. Which neither Sony nor MS will offer next-gen. Chunsoft's Homeland supports up to 30 players simultaneously already.
 
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