Windows 11 [2021]

I don't really care what third parties use for cross platform.

But a platform owner owes it to itself to have a native UI used by their own applications written in a proper non GC programming language.

Their applications should also use their own renderer on other platforms, why try to look native? SwiftUI doesn't even do cross platform, but Microsoft grovels to use native controls for Apple.
 
MfA said:
I don't really care what third parties use for cross platform.

But a platform owner owes it to itself to have a native UI used by their own applications written in a proper non GC programming language.

Their applications should also use their own renderer on other platforms, why try to look native? SwiftUI doesn't even do cross platform, but Microsoft grovels to use native controls for Apple.
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I can understand trying to use web ui garbage to make cross-platform apps, even though I think it's a bad solution. I cannot understand using react native to build an operating system menu. I want my operating system to feel instant.
 
Technically they can be made quite fast. There are many techniques they can use to make it as fast as something native. Even native UI frameworks needs a design language and they are not necessarily faster than a HTML renderer.
Apple already has a good design language so they keep using it (although a few years ago they did some significant updates to it). Microsoft, on the other hand, experiments with a lot and none seems to stick, unfortunately.
 
With 100's of extra MB of memory resident bloat per application. It's fast until GC or swap kicks in.

Startup time is poor too, even with the browser engine preloaded and really poor apps have that ugly hydration effect.

PS. as a design language FluentUI is fine. It's the implementation and what they choose to do with it that's the problem (widgets, god damn widgets).
 
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Windows question. I need to upgrade a Windows Server 2019 Essentials install to Standard. I know I could just change the product key to a 2019 Standard one, but I can't get 2019 keys anymore. I can get an OEM copy of Server 2022. Will the Server 2022 key activate on Server 2019? Best I can tell the answer is yes but I've never tried to exercise downgrade rights on Windows Server.
 
With the recent patch which seems to give AMD cpus (zen 3 and newer) a significant performance boost in Windows 11, and stories like this: (https://www.tomsguide.com/gaming/ha...roves-windows-11-kills-power-and-battery-life), I'm really solidifying my belief that Windows is not the best gaming environment. I really want an alternative. I don't actually mind using Windows day to day, and killing of Control Panel in favour of a single unified Settings app is an improvement, but I really want my OS to just be minimal and streamlined, and Windows is not.
 
I just wish Microsoft focused more on responsiveness, efficiency. I think having a single settings app is an improvement because you don’t need to check for configuration in two places. Long overdue. But it seems like responsiveness and optimization are secondary to features.
 
shouldn't settings apps link to the same thing so if you change it in one then you shouldn't need to change it in another
eg: if I right click on the desktop -- display settings -- display resolution and change it I don't also have to go into the nvidia control panel and change it there as well
 
Davros said:
shouldn't settings apps link to the same thing so if you change it in one then you shouldn't need to change it in another
eg: if I right click on the desktop -- display settings -- display resolution and change it I don't also have to go into the nvidia control panel and change it there as well
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Yes, you only need to do it one or the other, but some settings are available only in one of them
 
Kaotik said:
Yes, you only need to do it one or the other, but some settings are available only in one of them
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Trying to do things like managing network adapters is PITA if you don't go through the control panel. And I do that a lot so I'm pretty bummed they're getting rid of it.

Actually I just checked and if you click "Change adapter options" in the Network Status page of the settings app it takes you to "Network Connections" in the control panel. I don't know any other way to manage network adapters.
 
homerdog said:
Trying to do things like managing network adapters is PITA if you don't go through the control panel. And I do that a lot so I'm pretty bummed they're getting rid of it.

Actually I just checked and if you click "Change adapter options" in the Network Status page of the settings app it takes you to "Network Connections" in the control panel. I don't know any other way to manage network adapters.
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They're supposed to be porting all of the settings from the control panel into the new Settings panel, so everything is in one place. Assuming they do that correctly, it's a good choice. Right now there are a lot of weird things, like it's easier to config some audio settings in the Settings panel, but other settings need to be set in the Control panel.
 
Scott_Arm said:
They're supposed to be porting all of the settings from the control panel into the new Settings panel, so everything is in one place. Assuming they do that correctly, it's a good choice. Right now there are a lot of weird things, like it's easier to config some audio settings in the Settings panel, but other settings need to be set in the Control panel.
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As long as they don't make it worse I guess that's fine. I saw a video on Linus Tech Tips showing Windows 98 and I noticed the buttons to release/renew DHCP leases from the interface options. I hope they don't remove more basic features like that.
 
homerdog said:
As long as they don't make it worse I guess that's fine. I saw a video on Linus Tech Tips showing Windows 98 and I noticed the buttons to release/renew DHCP leases from the interface options. I hope they don't remove more basic features like that.
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I'm with you there. If combining means losing options I'm not going to be too happy with it.
 
Need to install the extension to use on PC (Win 11/10)

Download Dolby Vision Extensions 2.20400.722

Free Download Download Dolby Vision Extensions 2.20400.722: Dolby Vision HDR takes your PC entertainment to the next level with stunning visuals that feel incredibly real.
www.free-codecs.com

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What is Dolby Vision HDR?​


Dolby Vision is an advanced technology that transforms how you see your favorite content.

Think of it like upgrading from a standard picture to something far more vibrant and real. Regular displays just can’t match the level of detail, brightness, and color depth that Dolby Vision offers.

For instance, compared to a typical PC display, Dolby Vision can produce highlights up to 40 times brighter and blacks that are 10 times darker.

This contrast makes for a truly striking picture, where colors look richer and details stand out more clearly.

The result? A picture so lifelike, it almost feels like you're watching the scenes unfold in real life.

How Does Dolby Vision Work on PC?​


With the Dolby Vision app, you can enable this stunning visual technology on your PC. Once activated, Dolby Vision content will be displayed in one of three modes:

Dark Mode: Perfect for watching in low-light settings, enhancing shadow details.
Bright Mode: Great for well-lit environments, ensuring colors pop without losing detail.
Vivid Mode: For those who want the full, ultravibrant experience, with striking colors and contrasts.

These modes help tailor the visual experience to your environment and preferences.

Why Should You Care?​


It’s simple—Dolby Vision makes your movies, TV shows, and even games look better.

You’ll notice richer colors, deeper shadows, and brighter highlights, creating a more immersive experience. Instead of just watching content, you’ll feel like you’re part of the action.

Be it a blockbuster movie or a TV series binge, Dolby Vision enhances every scene, ensuring you get the best possible experience.
 
pharma said:
Need to install the extension to use on PC (Win 11/10)

Download Dolby Vision Extensions 2.20400.722

Free Download Download Dolby Vision Extensions 2.20400.722: Dolby Vision HDR takes your PC entertainment to the next level with stunning visuals that feel incredibly real.
www.free-codecs.com

View attachment 12080

What is Dolby Vision HDR?​


Dolby Vision is an advanced technology that transforms how you see your favorite content.

Think of it like upgrading from a standard picture to something far more vibrant and real. Regular displays just can’t match the level of detail, brightness, and color depth that Dolby Vision offers.

For instance, compared to a typical PC display, Dolby Vision can produce highlights up to 40 times brighter and blacks that are 10 times darker.

This contrast makes for a truly striking picture, where colors look richer and details stand out more clearly.

The result? A picture so lifelike, it almost feels like you're watching the scenes unfold in real life.

How Does Dolby Vision Work on PC?​


With the Dolby Vision app, you can enable this stunning visual technology on your PC. Once activated, Dolby Vision content will be displayed in one of three modes:

Dark Mode: Perfect for watching in low-light settings, enhancing shadow details.
Bright Mode: Great for well-lit environments, ensuring colors pop without losing detail.
Vivid Mode: For those who want the full, ultravibrant experience, with striking colors and contrasts.

These modes help tailor the visual experience to your environment and preferences.

Why Should You Care?​


It’s simple—Dolby Vision makes your movies, TV shows, and even games look better.

You’ll notice richer colors, deeper shadows, and brighter highlights, creating a more immersive experience. Instead of just watching content, you’ll feel like you’re part of the action.

Be it a blockbuster movie or a TV series binge, Dolby Vision enhances every scene, ensuring you get the best possible experience.
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Dark Mode is very interesting. Anyone have any experience with this? This could make HDR usable at night for me.

For context, this is me using HDR on a 1000nit monitor in a dark room at night.
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Wait whaaaat? Dolby are allowing DV in Windows now? I didn't think they ever allowed that due to potential secure chain being broken. It mentions licensed devices, of which some Android devices are (like the Shield), but is that referring to a software license now like you can with Dolby Atmos for Headphones?
 
Malo said:
Wait whaaaat? Dolby are allowing DV in Windows now? I didn't think they ever allowed that due to potential secure chain being broken. It mentions licensed devices, of which some Android devices are (like the Shield), but is that referring to a software license now like you can with Dolby Atmos for Headphones?
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I think if you have a Dolby enabled device (badge) you should be able to use.
Saw this thread at Guru3D.

Google on "Dolby Vision licensed device" does return quite a few device types.
Many devices support Dolby Vision, including:

  • TVs: Many TVs from major manufacturers like LG, Sony, Hisense, TCL, Toshiba, and Vizio support Dolby Vision. You can check if a TV supports Dolby Vision by looking for the Dolby Vision badge or asking a sales assistant.
  • Mobile devices: Many iPhones and iPads from Apple support Dolby Vision.
  • Streaming services: Most major streaming services support Dolby Vision, including Netflix, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+, and more.
  • Gaming consoles: The Xbox Series X/S supports Dolby Vision for gaming and streaming apps.
  • Head-mounted displays: The Apple Vision Pro supports Dolby Vision.
  • Media players: Some media players that support Dolby Vision include mpv, Libplacebo, MPC-HC, Exoplayer, and Shaka Player.
  • Encoders: Some encoders support Dolby Vision.
 
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