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Please don't take any offence...but I've worked out why you're name is 'version'...'coz these must be your 5th or 6th 'versions' of Xenon/ PS3 but the 1st for Rev! :p ;)
 
768mb of xdr ram in total for ps3?

if that is true the ps3 really is going to cost a fortune with everything else that it's supposed to have.

don't see it happening personally purely from a financial standpoint... i'd be happilly suprised to see 512 xdr in there to be honest.
 
aaaaa00 said:
Woohoo, lets play "random made up spec wars"! ;)
800 Petaherz 128 Bit, 64 Core CPU. Storage device 20 Petabytes. 1 PB/sec transfer rate. 1.5 Petabyte of RAM. No need for GPU or PPU. Emulates Ps3, XBOX 2, Revolution with ease, and it's own games make these consoles look like Atari 2600. :LOL:
 
Can't see Revolution having less ram then XBox 2 unless it uses lower latency ram. Like GC did with its 1T-Sram.

Just to check the G5 is a dual core processor right? So basically your saying that you think Revolution will have a 4 core 3Ghz PPC CPU with 2MB cache vs a 3 core 3Ghz PPC CPU with 1MB cache for XBox 2? That would suprise a few people here if it happened. Then again, who cares if this is just guess work :)
 
I wonder why version says 3 PPC for XBox 2 and 2 G5's for Revolution then? Why not just say 2 PPC? Or is there some other difference between a standard PowerPC and a G5?
 
Teasy said:
I wonder why version says 3 PPC for XBox 2 and 2 G5's for Revolution then? Why not just say 2 PPC? Or is there some other difference between a standard PowerPC and a G5?

Like Pentium4, G5 is a desktop CPU optimized for desktop spaghetti code software.

It has out-of-order execution (instead of in-order), 5 dispatch per cycle (instead of 2), and is bigger in chip area.

Console CPUs tended to have a different focus and different performance characteristics. (Xbox used a desktop CPU - Pentium 3, and it was the only console last generation to do so.)
 
Has anybody applied the DeadmeatGA bandwidth analysis technique to this XB2 configuration? (you know- the thing where a certain bandwidth to main memory can only achieve x amount of FLOPs or something like that?) That should be a hoot! :D
 
aaaaa00 said:
Console CPUs tended to have a different focus and different performance characteristics. (Xbox used a desktop CPU - Pentium 3, and it was the only console last generation to do so.)

Actually the processor in XBox is a custom Pentium 3/Celeron Hybrid, so it wasn't completely a desktop CPU as it was customised for XBox.
 
I dunno if you want to go "there". Technically, it was a spittin' image to essentially the cutdown P3 that was used in Windows laptops of the era- a Celeron rigged up for the mobile market.
 
aaaaa00 said:
Teasy said:
I wonder why version says 3 PPC for XBox 2 and 2 G5's for Revolution then? Why not just say 2 PPC? Or is there some other difference between a standard PowerPC and a G5?

Like Pentium4, G5 is a desktop CPU optimized for desktop spaghetti code software.

It has out-of-order execution (instead of in-order), 5 dispatch per cycle (instead of 2), and is bigger in chip area.

Console CPUs tended to have a different focus and different performance characteristics. (Xbox used a desktop CPU - Pentium 3, and it was the only console last generation to do so.)

How about the Gamecube's G3 derived Gekko?
 
randycat99 said:
I dunno if you want to go "there". Technically, it was a spittin' image to essentially the cutdown P3 that was used in Windows laptops of the era- a Celeron rigged up for the mobile market.

From what I've read, the reason it is a P3/Celeron hybrid and not a straight out P3, is that it still has a coppermine core, which is what Celeron II used IIRC. Why Microsoft are alllowed to market it as a P3 is because the XBox processor gives a 10% speed increase over its celeron equivilent.

Like I said this is what I've read, if you have evidence to prove otherwise, then please show me. ;)
 
Andy said:
randycat99 said:
I dunno if you want to go "there". Technically, it was a spittin' image to essentially the cutdown P3 that was used in Windows laptops of the era- a Celeron rigged up for the mobile market.

From what I've read, the reason it is a P3/Celeron hybrid and not a straight out P3, is that it still has a coppermine core, which is what Celeron II used IIRC. Why Microsoft are alllowed to market it as a P3 is because the XBox processor gives a 10% speed increase over its celeron equivilent.

Like I said this is what I've read, if you have evidence to prove otherwise, then please show me. ;)

I thought it was something like Celerons of the time had half the cache speed in addition to half the cache, while the xcpu has full speed cache but only half the cache.(and was identicle to a mobile pentium 3)
 
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