http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23295
Also, 300–million Achievements are unlocked.
Also, 300–million Achievements are unlocked.
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Xbox Live: six million users
- Thread starter pipo
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What about comparing installed base then? How many people have PCs?
Fu3lFr3nzy
Regular
Good news for MS. They'll definately mention this on GDC this week. I can only imagine the Peter Moore interviews now
Rainbow Man
Veteran
What doers thsi really mean?
That there are 6 something million people with live accounts or that 6 million people are now paying subscribers?
One is significantly more impressive than the other.
Peace.
That there are 6 something million people with live accounts or that 6 million people are now paying subscribers?
One is significantly more impressive than the other.
Peace.
last time when they said 5m or 5.5m at CES2007 they said it was subscribers. not sure whether that includes anyone who has subscribed for free month live.
crystalcube
Newcomer
Number of subscriber is not a very good measure. It raises questions on how many "One Month Trial ones" who never continued after trial, etc, etc. Even the article mentions that Microsoft is silent about such statistics
but activity statistics like the "2.3 billion hours spent playing games on the service since its launch in 2002" is much better indicator how the community is doing. And thats a lot of hours of online play
but activity statistics like the "2.3 billion hours spent playing games on the service since its launch in 2002" is much better indicator how the community is doing. And thats a lot of hours of online play
Well if you see what the 200 million userbase normally does it´s not that far of really
BruceWayneIII
Newcomer
Microsoft's top 5 XBox Live Arcade games:
1. Street Fighter II' Hyper Fighting
2. Bankshot Billiards 2
3. Marble Blast Ultra
4. UNO
5. DOOM
For clarification: the 6 million is user with Silver or Gold who accessed the network.
1. Street Fighter II' Hyper Fighting
2. Bankshot Billiards 2
3. Marble Blast Ultra
4. UNO
5. DOOM
For clarification: the 6 million is user with Silver or Gold who accessed the network.
Yes.This was something that came up with XB Live and Halo IIRC. There were free trials which resulted in user accounts, but these accounts didn't care to continue their online. It's actually an important statistic to know, to guage penetration of online services. This is a Big Thing these days, and XB's reputation is pretty much founded on it's online services, yet interest in online, especially online gaming, has never been confidently proven. 60% XB360 online gaming would be impressive and show people (or at least, early XB360 purchasers) do want online services. Whereas previous figures from last-gen have pegged online nearer 10%, which makes it very much a niche thing.
scooby_dooby
Legend
Irrelevant, as the number refers to both Silver and Gold accounts. If you've followed MS PR, you know that this is the number they always refer to, total subscribers, including Silver.
You can gather than 70% are currently active as they download MP content, presumably part of the remaining 30% game online, but do not DL markep platce content, (probably quite a small segment Core users and others, <10% I would guess).
So, you're probably looking in the range 70-80% of this 6million are active, returning members. 5million give or take a few hundred thousand seems a very safe bet to me.
yes, no matter how the numbers break down, they are impressive that people use the service. Along with voice messaging, chat, downloadable movies, arcade games, TV shows, demos and the like (all available on Silver membership), it bodes well (much better than many had predicted two years ago) for both the future of PS3 and X360 online strategies.
It really matters not, how many people pay for online gaming as that is not the purpose of this release..
scooby_dooby
Legend
I think it also shows that the appeal over online connectivity is somewhat over rated. We're talking about 40% of the early adopters crowd, haven't even bothered to log in. Imo, casual consumers will be even less likely to login, increasing that percentage.
To me, that shows that there is still a massive audience for a cheap, HDD-less, core console.
True, there is STILL a huge market for an unconnected Core. I am (as you know
) on the 2008-2010 $179 Core rules the World bandwagon. It's just that this release shows that there are quite a bit of people (just like any cutting edge technology) that are ready for the full experience. Far more people than given credit before the 360 released with such a fully featured online service.
crystalcube
Newcomer
I was trying to highlight that just the number itself is not a good indicator because of active vs inactive members.
ahha more numbers and statistics
How about in a family more than one person has a/c but for practical purpose only one is used. That would artificially inflate the number wont it ? How about dummy a/c when people register for multiple region just to access (free) content of other regions ?
Your 70-80% maybe true , but we have no way of knowing it. And again usage statistic like "300–million Achievements are unlocked" is more meaningful, but has a less PR impact than number of subscribers.
scooby_dooby
Legend
I was trying to highlight that just the number itself is not a good indicator because of active vs inactive members.
ahha more numbers and statistics
How about in a family more than one person has a/c but for practical purpose only one is used. That would artificially inflate the number wont it ? How about dummy a/c when people register for multiple region just to access (free) content of other regions ?
Your 70-80% maybe true , but we have no way of knowing it. And again usage statistic like "300–million Achievements are unlocked" is more meaningful, but has a less PR impact than number of subscribers.
I'm pointing out we 'know' that 70% at least are active. So the number is indeed meaningful.
As for not knowing whether 70-80% is correct, that's true, but we definately do know that it's more than 70% and less than 100%.
crystalcube
Newcomer
that 70% is an estimate of how many user a/c have downloaded from Xbox Live arcade. It is not a figure for active subscribers. Because for those 70% are they still active ? is that 70% during life of Live Service ? If an a/c downloads one arcade content and is inactive now , thats counted isn't it ?
as from the exact quote
that 70% is not a known amount just an estimate like yours, unless you are the one who came up with that estimates for Microsoft in first place
. But how could they possibly not know for sure ? why estimates ?Anyway there is no question about 6 million subscribers and again 70+% is good estimate but its still an estimate and all we know for sure is that Microsoft wont give the exact figure of its members who have Gold Subscription.
