X360 HD-DVD Addon $200 (digitimes.com)
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What if the publisher gave MS two options - you either let us put it out on HD-DVD, or not at all..? The choice becomes a difficult one then.
Anyway, that comment isn't quoted directly. I'd wait for some clarification. I don't think MS would be that stupid.
inefficient
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Hate to have to post something I saw on GAF, but here we go.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114671
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114671
GAF said:
This was mentioned elsewhere already I believe. That doesn't mean to say HD-DVD only games, but could suggesting releasing DVD games onto HD-DVD, especially when it's multi-disc. If DVD doesn't prove large enough in the long run they may want to consider this, and as for the backtracking, it wouldn't be the first time a company has given a PR refutal of a competitor's feature and then changed their mind. Better they do change if they have to than tie themselves to inferior software based on a PR comment made year earlier.
Umm, ZiFF posted it like 6 replies before you...
Yes I posted the article, and it is from CED.
scooby_dooby
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but wait, I thought any nextgen game would fit on a dl-dvd and that MS sees no real advantage in a nextgen media for games
It's always been assumed there would be a handful of games split across multiple DVD's.
For MS? Yes, it would.
But as I said, I cannot imagine that situation coming up. The install base is far too small. No publisher would willingly fund an HD-DVD only 360 game. And they probably wouldn't go for both. Why spend additional money to hit a sliver of the market you're already hitting? No publisher has vested interest in HD-DVD besides MS, too.
Even if MS made it available, I don't see anyone rushing to it.
It was teporarily locked pending an official response from Microsoft, not for anything else.
One just arrived:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3152888
Actual source: Warren News' Consumer Electronics Daily
http://www.xboxic.com/news/1437
Tommy McClain
http://www.xboxic.com/news/1437
Tommy McClain
well first of all I don't see this happening as a small portion of 360 owners will ever own the addon. second it's possible to make Hybrid disks that work in both regular DVD's and HD-DVD drives. Third why would Any developer or publisher bother to make two marginally different games/SKU's for a single platform?
People need to give up on this idea.
People need to give up on this idea.
I think they'd only make it available under publisher/developer pressure. I doubt they're even entertaining the prospect unless they've considered that there could or will be a need for it.
edit - Kind of funny - according to the author of that 1up article, Microsoft is now working on a new response to this. It'll be on the site shortly, apparently.
edit 2 - and duly, here is that update. Obviously MS PR perhaps weren't too aware of the need to stamp down on this kind of talk when they were initially approached given the vigor of their second attempt
More - http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3152888
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RancidLunchmeat
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Geez.. How do I get a job in the MS PR department?
What a bunch of clowns.
How could they not know what sort of commotion any ambiguity in this matter would create, considering the main difference between their console and one about to be released from the market leader is the optical drive?
What a bunch of clowns.
How could they not know what sort of commotion any ambiguity in this matter would create, considering the main difference between their console and one about to be released from the market leader is the optical drive?
It only takes one person to make such a slight but meaningful mistake. Marketing is... rather prone to that. They live in a different world. To me, they've always seemed like attachments to or mercenaries for whatever they're marketing.
scooby_dooby
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edit 2 - and duly, here is that update. Obviously MS PR perhaps weren't too aware of the need to stamp down on this kind of talk when they were initially approached given the vigor of their second attempt
It's funny, because obviously they are discussing the oiption if their 'main concern' is load times. So it's not so much "No" as "we're still thinking about it"
Too me it makes the most sense that they are considering dual releases, not HD-DVD only which would seriously piss off consumers.
RancidLunchmeat
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Funny stuff.. I don't see the evidence here (for or against) is any different than what was presented in the Sony won't allow you to play used games thread from a while back.
There's evidence that some sort of debate/discussion about the idea exists within the company, and the denial is only one of their current plans. So it's not a complete denial, it's merely an expression that no decision has been made at this point in time.
What they should have said, IMO, is that they will never release games exclusively on HD-DVD for the 360.
That is a complete denial, and it allows them to release games in the future on HD-DVD format if they so choose.
By not issuing such a complete statement, they leave the issue unresolved.
There's evidence that some sort of debate/discussion about the idea exists within the company, and the denial is only one of their current plans. So it's not a complete denial, it's merely an expression that no decision has been made at this point in time.
What they should have said, IMO, is that they will never release games exclusively on HD-DVD for the 360.
That is a complete denial, and it allows them to release games in the future on HD-DVD format if they so choose.
By not issuing such a complete statement, they leave the issue unresolved.
Well, even as a Xbox owner, I have split feeling on the move.
There's no doubt HD-DVD/Blu-Ray is cool. And would be nice to have games on.
I think MS is keeping options open like anybody else. If Blu-Ray becomes some huge advantage for PS3, they'll respond. They're MS that's what they do. If it doesn't, which is the more likely scenario imo, they'll stand pat.
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There's no doubt HD-DVD/Blu-Ray is cool. And would be nice to have games on.
I think MS is keeping options open like anybody else. If Blu-Ray becomes some huge advantage for PS3, they'll respond. They're MS that's what they do. If it doesn't, which is the more likely scenario imo, they'll stand pat.
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The guy just answered the question and didn't have time to think about how what he said would be (mis)taken. If they had asked 'are you thinking of producing exclusively HDDVD games' the answer would likely have been 'no', but the option of releasing games on HDDVD is always there and they can't flatly deny it unless they want to pull a U-turn (which is doable and has been done by many). I'm not seeing any confusion here. Every game released for XB360 will be available on DVD as originally stated until we're told otherwise. This comment wasn't suggesting anything contrary to that that I can see.
A denial comment from an MS exec...
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3648&Itemid=2
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3648&Itemid=2
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