"Woe is me" says Bill - the gloomy Microsoft doom thread

[eastmen]

cpu's have been stagnet for a long time. For the average consumer you don't need anything more than a core 2 duo to surf the web. Even for gamers a quad core core 2 would work still. Even video cards anything since the hd 5x00 series is still good for 1080p gaming.

Hopefully with haswell / broadwell we see 8 core cpus and ddr 4 and we see current graphics cards struggling with the increased power of consoles and we will see a buying frenzy again.


Mobile can change at any minute. MS / Rim / Nokia had that market , apple came and ate their lunch and now android is eating apples lunch.

Same with tablets. Apple released the ipad and was killing it for almost 2 years and android came in and is starting to eat into their market share. As time goes on windows tablets might do the same.

A lot of people laugh at how bad surface is doing but android tablets did horrible out of the gate and for almost the first 2 years also. IT wasn't really till the fire came out that sales started to take off.

In another 4 years we could see MS not only holding the pc sector but having huge chunks of the mobile sector too.

 

[zed]

Right, introducing a new (often complementary) market is not the same as "losing" market share in the established one.

you missed the news from a couple of days ago
Q1 PC shipments DOWN 14% // the largest drop ever recorded
to say phones/tablets arent harming traditional pc sales is not realistic

 

[dZeus]

cpu's have been stagnet for a long time. For the average consumer you don't need anything more than a core 2 duo to surf the web. Even for gamers a quad core core 2 would work still. Even video cards anything since the hd 5x00 series is still good for 1080p gaming.

Hopefully with haswell / broadwell we see 8 core cpus and ddr 4 and we see current graphics cards struggling with the increased power of consoles and we will see a buying frenzy again.


Mobile can change at any minute. MS / Rim / Nokia had that market , apple came and ate their lunch and now android is eating apples lunch.

Same with tablets. Apple released the ipad and was killing it for almost 2 years and android came in and is starting to eat into their market share. As time goes on windows tablets might do the same.

A lot of people laugh at how bad surface is doing but android tablets did horrible out of the gate and for almost the first 2 years also. IT wasn't really till the fire came out that sales started to take off.

In another 4 years we could see MS not only holding the pc sector but having huge chunks of the mobile sector too.

You might be right, but either MS needs to seriously fix Windows RT or Intel/AMD need to release x86 CPUs that can compete well with ARM SoCs on the tablet front in terms of price/features/performance ratio.

As for MS getting big in phones.. they'll need to pump a lot of money into it for years to come, much like they did with Xbox.

Then there's the problem of cross-platform development. In order to get developers to embrace 'one source code to rule all platforms', they need users to dump the classic desktop more and more in favour of the 'metro' mode. Hasn't happened yet, and I think it won't happen until there are some seriously good apps for the modern interface that are not available for desktop mode. Users resist change. And 'modern interface' is optimized for touch, which imo doesn't make much sense on traditional desktops and notebooks.

Then there's the dilemma of MS releasing Office for iOS and Android in order not to loose market share, or to not release them, and hope that'll boost sales of Windows on tablets. They're in a difficult position!