Windows 11 [2021]

[Flappy Pannus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1703776961296998693

Pretty abrupt departure for the head of Windows/Surface, apparently heading to Amazon.

A lot of QT's about this this is a big loss though and um...is it? Surface was a notoriously unreliable brand, overpriced and slow to update. Then we have the reception for Windows 11...and well, nuff said.

It can always get worse of course, and regardless of my feelings of Panos, the rot for Windows imo is largely coming from the Bing team's desperation to gain traction by shoving themselves in your face at every opportunity, so I doubt any new head is going to remedy that. But I just don't see Panos's reign as somehow extraordinary.

 

[Malo]

Windows 11 and now the new Office apps get worse day by day.

 

[Cyan]

Aside from features like using AI, or a function to remove the background of an image now MS Paint is going to have other very nice features.

Microsoft Paint finally adds Photoshop-like transparency and layers

Once on the brink of forced retirement, Microsoft Paint is getting even more updates that increase its utility as an image editor.

www.pcworld.com

 

[Cyan]

Finally got to try Win 11 and I hate the startmenu
I get something that looks like this :
View attachment 9543

How do I get a normal startmenu like windows 10
View attachment 9544

EDIT :
Found a solution

I use StartAllBack, it works very well for me, although I only use to move the taskbar to the right vertical side of the screen.

GitHub - suttonmeade/startallback-Windows11: StartAllBack for Windows 11

StartAllBack for Windows 11. Contribute to suttonmeade/startallback-Windows11 development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

 

[orangpelupa]

y clock even needs internet lol

 

[Bludd]

yep accurate clock is needed for secure comms so it wants to sync up with some internet clock

 

[Kaotik]

View attachment 9663y clock even needs internet lol

Where do you think it would get accurate time from if not the internet?

 

[orangpelupa]

Where do you think it would get accurate time from if not the internet?

Local machine

 

[Bludd]

Local machine

but your local clock can and will drift for "reasons" and then its useful to have a ground truth which are atomic clocks on the internet
there is even a protocol thats used for it

Network Time Protocol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[orangpelupa]

but your local clock can and will drift for "reasons" and then its useful to have a ground truth which are atomic clocks on the internet
there is even a protocol thats used for it

Network Time Protocol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's a non issue. The local machine automatically sync their clock with time.windows.com.

Windows has done it for many decades

 

[Bludd]

That's a non issue. The local machine automatically sync their clock with time.windows.com.

Windows has done it for many decades

oh yes but this is windows 11 and all that is out the window (hah!) so now the apps does it by themselves

because its "better?" or something

 

[orangpelupa]

oh yes but this is windows 11 and all that is out the window (hah!) so now the apps does it by themselves

because its "better?" or something

now you got me thinking, maybe MS borked their "local machine time" or the "local machine time sync" system. so as a workaround, the clock connects to the internet by itself.

 

[hoom]

That's a non issue. The local machine automatically sync their clock with time.windows.com.

Windows has done it for many decades

And it needs access to the internet to get to time.windows.com (or tell it to use a non-MS one https://www.ntppool.org/en/use.html)

MS Paint is going to have other very nice features

But still no proper fucking Taskbar/Start menu.

 

[orangpelupa]

And it needs access to the internet to get to time.windows.com (or tell it to use a non-MS one https://www.ntppool.org/en/use.html)


But still no proper fucking Taskbar/Start menu.

The confusing part was not windows accessing the internet but the clock app accessing the internet.

Thus the speculation of why the clock apps accessing the internet

 

[Bludd]

The confusing part was not windows accessing the internet but the clock app accessing the internet.

Thus the speculation of why the clock apps accessing the internet

according to this its because its looking for an update in the microsoft store each time it runs

These Windows 11 apps will NOT work if you aren't connected

Microsoft Windows 11 is right around the corner and while the update will bring several new features and redesigned apps, users will reportedly have to make sure they have internet connectivity before launching a handful of Windows 11 apps for the first time. Here’s what you need to know about...

tech.hindustantimes.com

 

[orangpelupa]

according to this its because its looking for an update in the microsoft store each time it runs

These Windows 11 apps will NOT work if you aren't connected

Microsoft Windows 11 is right around the corner and while the update will bring several new features and redesigned apps, users will reportedly have to make sure they have internet connectivity before launching a handful of Windows 11 apps for the first time. Here’s what you need to know about...

tech.hindustantimes.com

the weird thing is that it was not the first time i launched the clock app. maybe it just phones home every launch then. i wonder what data they sent, making it to phone home every launch. instead of merging it together in the os-level telemetry.

 

[Cyan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1705664458952151101

 

[AzBat]

Anybody buy Stardock's Start11 Start Menu replacement? Been using the trial on my new work PC for a few days. Considering it for my mini PC at home too. It seems worth it for $6 but the multiple install version that supports 5 computers is $15. I only have 2 PCs. So it's cheaper just to buy 2 single copies instead. Anyway, any bad experiences? How's support?

 

[pharma]

Windows 11 23H2, l’Explorateur de fichiers perd le glisser-déposer au niveau de sa barre d’adresse - GinjFo

Windows 11 23H2 s’accompagne d’un nouvel explorateur de fichiers. Il profite de nouveautés mais s’accompagne aussi d’une mauvaise surprise.

www.ginjfo.com

September 28, 2023

Windows 11 23H2 comes with a new file explorer. It benefits from novelties but is also accompanied by an unpleasant surprise. Without explanation, the drag-and-drop function in its address bar no longer works.

This discovery is surprising because it is a step backwards in terms of productivity. This isn't the first time Microsoft has overpriced such a feature. When Windows 11 was released, it had totally disappeared from the bar of tâcehes. It took a year to witness his return. It took place with the release of Windows 11 22H2. At the time Microsoft presented things as a breakthrough forgetting that this feature has been accompanying Windows for years.
...
Until now it was quick to move items using only the address bar. A simple drag and drop allowed content to be moved to one location without having to open another window or tab. Now this is no longer possible.

 

[orangpelupa]

Any reporters managed to get insider info on why windows 11 have so many regressions?

Even windows 8 didn't have these many regressions, and mostly solved in windows 8.1