Nvidia Geforce RTX 50xx experiences

Albuquerque said:
Hey, I'm glad you mentioned this, because I've noticed some problems and sorta assumed it was just my undervolt + overclock needed some adjusting. To some extent I was right, because a tiny bit of extra voltage at the same speed seems to have solved the random instability I was getting with longer play sessions of CP2077 + DLSS 4 Transformer mode (which is a new change for me), but I've also been having problems with Space Engineers crashing randomly -- and it is NOT a GPU-intensive title by any stretch. On a whim I fired up some Skyrim SE for my little dude to play, and after like 15 minutes it CTD'd too. Don't get me wrong, that's totally a Bethesda Game thing to do, buuuut Skyrim SE has bee historically pretty damned stable for me (thanks to all that 64 bit goodness that will just absorb all the memory leaks without running into the 32-bit app limit lol.)

I think it's this latest driver and I'm a little unhappy about it. :(
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I had to roll back. The crashes were relentless. Seeing lots of complaints online now about 572 drivers crashing.
 
trinibwoy said:
I had to roll back. The crashes were relentless. Seeing lots of complaints online now about 572 drivers crashing.
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i must be lucky, i havent had a single crash with 572.16, though i have a 4090
 
I'm also on a 4090 and experienced a few crashes of my own. However, I'm guessing there are additional performance optimizations in this release which are affected by overclocking and/or have a notable affect on overclocked stability.

I've run the same overclock for nearly the entire life of this card (2745MHz at 965mV) yet after this specific driver update I must now run 2700MHz at the same voltage. However, it's not ALL overclocking, as Space Engineers will CTD after maybe an hour or two at 100% pure stock clocking behavior. That's something which has not happened until this driver update. There's nothing graphically challenging about space engineers, however I do run DL-DSR at the maximum 2.25 or whatever mode. I haven't tried pushing it back to "stock" resolutions, and honestly I don't really care to.
 
Albuquerque said:
I'm also on a 4090 and experienced a few crashes of my own. However, I'm guessing there are additional performance optimizations in this release which are affected by overclocking and/or have a notable affect on overclocked stability.

I've run the same overclock for nearly the entire life of this card (2745MHz at 965mV) yet after this specific driver update I must now run 2700MHz at the same voltage. However, it's not ALL overclocking, as Space Engineers will CTD after maybe an hour or two at 100% pure stock clocking behavior. That's something which has not happened until this driver update. There's nothing graphically challenging about space engineers, however I do run DL-DSR at the maximum 2.25 or whatever mode. I haven't tried pushing it back to "stock" resolutions, and honestly I don't really care to.
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Weirdness, on this driver it’s the first time my 4090 hit 2900MHz.
 
I have 0ahd zero crashes on my 4090 too.
That is in these games:
CyberPunk 2077
Indiana Jones
Kingdom Come Deliverance 2
Rome Total War - Remastered
Subnautica
Quake 1 (RT mod)
 
Florin said:
- edit - Turns out VBS was not actually the root cause, I still have this issue on some boots.

When it happens, the GPU only clocks to 750Mhz and then stays there, and performance is compromised proportionally.

Rebooting and running the benchmark again fixes it.
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The GPU locking at a low clock speed issue went absent for a few days so it kinda faded from my mind. But today I noticed it popped up once again.

These Reddit threads seem to describe the issue or at least something similar:
5090 stuck at low clock speeds
5080 overclock but core clock stuck at low value

I hadn't messed with Afterburner on this system. But I do have the Gigabyte Control Center installed, and it had pulled in a LOT of Gigabyte apps and tools (a fair few of which I wouldn't hesitate to call bloatware).

So first of all I disabled GCC from starting up automatically.
And I also ran those:
nvidia-smi base-clocks

nvidia-smi --reset-gpu-clocks

nvidia-smi --reset-memory-clocks

nvidia-smi base-clocks
.. debugging commands, but I don't think that actually ended up changing anything on my particular system.

Anyway, rebooted, ran 3DMark and framerates looked good, and then I was surprised by a sudden Steam achievement:
3dmark_steam_cheevo.png

So yeah. Maybe this will help.

And if not, I'd still say you might want to avoid dinky OEM software and anything else that might try to interact with your Blackwell card for the time being.
Until they've had some time to bring these utilities up to speed for the new generation.
 
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OEM software is a bane, just got the wife a new laptop and I am currently unstalling all the bloat, because it is NOT needed /sigh
 
Florin said:
The GPU locking at a low clock speed issue went absent for a few days so it kinda faded from my mind. But today I noticed it popped up once again.

These Reddit threads seem to describe the issue or at least something similar:
5090 stuck at low clock speeds
5080 overclock but core clock stuck at low value

I hadn't messed with Afterburner on this system. But I do have the Gigabyte Control Center installed, and it had pulled in a LOT of Gigabyte apps and tools (a fair few of which I wouldn't hesitate to call bloatware).

So first of all I disabled GCC from starting up automatically.
And I also ran those:
nvidia-smi base-clocks

nvidia-smi --reset-gpu-clocks

nvidia-smi --reset-memory-clocks

nvidia-smi base-clocks
.. debugging commands, but I don't think that actually ended up changing anything on my particular system.

Anyway, rebooted, ran 3DMark and framerates looked good, and then I was surprised by a sudden Steam achievement:
View attachment 13105

So yeah. Maybe this will help.

And if not, I'd still say you might want to avoid dinky OEM software and anything else that might try to interact with your Blackwell card for the time being.
Until they've had some time to bring these utilities up to speed for the new generation.
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hopefully a new driver will make the boo boos go away :)
 
IQandHDR said:
OEM software is a bane, just got the wife a new laptop and I am currently unstalling all the bloat, because it is NOT needed /sigh
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The Gigabyte GCC is a certified piece of shit. I've had so many damn problems with it I forgot what it's even supposed to do. Never worked right on my Z790 UD AC.
 
homerdog said:
The Gigabyte GCC is a certified piece of shit. I've had so many damn problems with it I forgot what it's even supposed to do. Never worked right on my Z790 UD AC.
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Yeah, the problem is it kinda does everything.
I've got a Gigabyte motherboard as well as the GPU, so I got it because it does the firmware updates and also configures fan profiles.
But then it detects the GPU too and integrates that.

The best part is every time after you go to the tab for a manual BIOS update check and then back to the general software tab, it resets the entire list and again will prompt you to install everything you had carefully deselected. Like Norton Internet Security and Ryzen Master. Ugh.
 
I wonder how many people have some crappy (OEM) software installed, that is causing issues and they blame something else.
 
i hate that new bioses have a malware "feature" that installs crap like that automatically
its evil

i havent installed the msi crap for my msi mobo
 
Same, I do drivers/BIOS "manually", I decide what gets installed on my PC, not my vendor.

Hell, I even do the "winget upgrade" manually, so I am in control.
 
Do you have an option to choose which GCC components are installed? Installing the bare minimum, testing and then gradually keep installing components might narrow down components your system has problems with.

For OC'ing, fan profiles and monitoring I use GPUTweak III
 
For MB fan profiles and monitoring I use AI Suite 3 but don't use all components. Generally I manually OC and update firmware directly in bios.
 
Discord said:
Do you have an option to choose which GCC components are installed? Installing the bare minimum, testing and then gradually keep installing components might narrow down components your system has problems with.

For OC'ing, fan profiles and monitoring I use GPUTweak III
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Yeah, you do have a choice. But the default is all enabled (28 entries on my system.. !).

First time you start it it will just try to install all of them, which I cancelled and then deinstalled 2 of the worst that it had already done.
And then like I mentioned there's a bug where if you switch to BIOS update and back to components list, it enables all again.

It's a real piece of work.
 
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