Windows 11 [2021]

[orangpelupa]

windows 11 fucked me lol
been wasting time troubleshooting my laptop. turns out windows 11 automatically updated my GPU driver. rolled it back, voila fixed.

Anyone installed on a Haswell based system?

Windows 10 has never really felt that snappy on my 4770k and was thinking of giving this a go to see if it improves anything.

IME windows 11 is less snappy than 10. especially in launching the start menu and task manager tho.

 

[PSman1700]

windows 11 fucked me lol
been wasting time troubleshooting my laptop. turns out windows 11 automatically updated my GPU driver. rolled it back, voila fixed.

W10 used to do that aswell, for me a rollback didnt prevent windows from automatically downloading older versions of GPU drivers (on laptops). You need to add the hardwares deviceid's to the list of prevention of hardware installations. Works 100%.

IME windows 11 is less snappy than 10. especially in launching the start menu and task manager tho.

Ive been experiencing the otherway around, feels like W11 is snappier, but i'd bet the difference is minimal though.

 

[orangpelupa]

W10 used to do that aswell, for me a rollback didnt prevent windows from automatically downloading older versions of GPU drivers (on laptops). You need to add the hardwares deviceid's to the list of prevention of hardware installations. Works 100%.



Ive been experiencing the otherway around, feels like W11 is snappier, but i'd bet the difference is minimal though.

Hmm, I suspect you have a good internet?

Windows 11 start menu slows down considerably the worse the internet is. Even with "recommendations" disabled.

 

[PSman1700]

Hmm, I suspect you have a good internet?

Windows 11 start menu slows down considerably the worse the internet is. Even with "recommendations" disabled.

1gb/s fibre, weird if internet requirements would be so high just to use a modern OS.

 

[orangpelupa]

1gb/s fibre, weird if internet requirements would be so high just to use a modern OS.

Its quite sensitive to latency and packet losses. But require very small bandwidth.

 

[swaaye]

Heads up on that 22H2 update. I had to roll back to the previous build because VR stutters with it. It seems like I'm not exactly alone in this. NVidia is looking into it so maybe it's just a driver thing but who knows.

Windows 11 22H2 causing gaming issues for some NVIDIA users

According to user reports, the Windows 11 22H2 feature update released earlier this week is causing gaming performance issues on systems with NVIDIA GPUs.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

Win 11 Update causing stutters?

Today’s Win 11 Update (09/20/22) seems to be causing severe stuttering for me. Anyone else? I have made no other changes, additions, etc. Have never had any stutters before. Tried lowering render settings from 90 to 80, but no difference. If I move my head at all from left to right, get a black...

forums.flightsimulator.com

 

[PSman1700]

Im going to wait awhile upgrading to 22H2, let them iron out the glitches first.

 

[orangpelupa]

Since the rumor in windows 10 of Microsoft deleted their QC group, the updates has been buggy. Better to change the update tier to the slow tier

 

[Flappy Pannus]

Heads up on that 22H2 update. I had to roll back to the previous build because VR stutters with it. It seems like I'm not exactly alone in this. NVidia is looking into it so maybe it's just a driver thing but who knows.

Windows 11 22H2 causing gaming issues for some NVIDIA users

According to user reports, the Windows 11 22H2 feature update released earlier this week is causing gaming performance issues on systems with NVIDIA GPUs.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

Win 11 Update causing stutters?

Today’s Win 11 Update (09/20/22) seems to be causing severe stuttering for me. Anyone else? I have made no other changes, additions, etc. Have never had any stutters before. Tried lowering render settings from 90 to 80, but no difference. If I move my head at all from left to right, get a black...

forums.flightsimulator.com

Geforce Experience Update that likely fixes the issue is here. I don't have VR but I had horrible stuttering in some games since upgrading and this update fixed it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1573411300880908289

 

[orangpelupa]

any idea what this is error is about?

A fatal hardware error has occurred.

Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Cache Hierarchy Error
Processor APIC ID: 6

The details view of this entry contains further information.

 

[PSman1700]

Theres a program called Whocrashed, used it before to analyse BSODs.

 

[swaaye]

Geforce Experience Update that likely fixes the issue is here. I don't have VR but I had horrible stuttering in some games since upgrading and this update fixed it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1573411300880908289

I let Win11 update to 22H2 again to test this out. It's not fixed. I did a clean install of the latest NV drivers and didn't even install GF Experience. It still stutters like crazy.

I tried some other stuff too like reinstalling chipset drivers, closing tray apps, resetting / reinstalling Mixed Reality Portal.

Rolled back to previous Win11 build again.

It might have something to do with a WMR component called HolographicShell. I think I will monitor that situation.

NVIDIA GeForce Game Ready Driver 517.48 Discussion

Hey guys. I’ve also been battling this HolographicShell issue for a while as I was already on insider beta. I’ve submitted the issue to feedback hub and sent it to a dev on reddit who said he forwarded it on, but please upvote and add comments if you want and I’ll ask him again if there’s been...

forums.flightsimulator.com

 

[Cyan]

Microsoft admits that virtualization and memory integrity can quite affect performance in games, and published a support article on how to disable them:

https://prod.support.services.micro...ndows-11-a255f612-2949-4373-a566-ff6f3f474613

Additionally, they finally published the Windows HDR Calibration tool. Great software tbh.

Windows HDR Calibration - Official app in the Microsoft Store

This app lets you calibrate your HDR display to optimize it for HDR games (including Auto HDR) and other HDR content on your Windows 11 PC. Go through a series of steps to set the minimum and maximum brightness levels, as well as color saturation level, to create a new color profile that's made...

apps.microsoft.com

It's sooooooo easy to use and worked like a charm with my TV. It creates a new colour profile that becomes the default profile for your TV or monitor.

 

[pjbliverpool]

Microsoft admits that virtualization and memory integrity can quite affect performance in games, and published a support article on how to disable them:

https://prod.support.services.micro...ndows-11-a255f612-2949-4373-a566-ff6f3f474613

Additionally, they finally published the Windows HDR Calibration tool. Great software tbh.

Windows HDR Calibration - Official app in the Microsoft Store

This app lets you calibrate your HDR display to optimize it for HDR games (including Auto HDR) and other HDR content on your Windows 11 PC. Go through a series of steps to set the minimum and maximum brightness levels, as well as color saturation level, to create a new color profile that's made...

apps.microsoft.com

It's sooooooo easy to use and worked like a charm with my TV. It creates a new colour profile that becomes the default profile for your TV or monitor.

Awesome thanks! I'll definitely be trying the HDR tool out later. I've not tried VR yet but if I have issues then I'll report back if disabling those features fixed them or not.

 

[orangpelupa]

windows 11 has been pretty crashy these days, turns out it have very weird memory usage



how it can commit 30+GB, while i onl have 16GB of RAM and only 606 MB in pagefile?

 

[swaaye]

Microsoft admits that virtualization and memory integrity can quite affect performance in games, and published a support article on how to disable them:

https://prod.support.services.micro...ndows-11-a255f612-2949-4373-a566-ff6f3f474613

Additionally, they finally published the Windows HDR Calibration tool. Great software tbh.

Windows HDR Calibration - Official app in the Microsoft Store

This app lets you calibrate your HDR display to optimize it for HDR games (including Auto HDR) and other HDR content on your Windows 11 PC. Go through a series of steps to set the minimum and maximum brightness levels, as well as color saturation level, to create a new color profile that's made...

apps.microsoft.com

It's sooooooo easy to use and worked like a charm with my TV. It creates a new colour profile that becomes the default profile for your TV or monitor.

Yeah they are creating a complicated minefield of settings. Another thing that should usually be disabled is Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling because it can cause severe stuttering. For some reason only NVidia supports it.

Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling Performance Revisited

Windows 11 Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling Performance Analysis (HAGS On vs. HAGS Off) – 26 games benchmarked using a Gigabyte AORUS RTX 3080 MASTER Windows ... Read more

babeltechreviews.com

 

[Cyan]

Yeah they are creating a complicated minefield of settings. Another thing that should usually be disabled is Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling because it can cause severe stuttering. For some reason only NVidia supports it.

Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling Performance Revisited

Windows 11 Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling Performance Analysis (HAGS On vs. HAGS Off) – 26 games benchmarked using a Gigabyte AORUS RTX 3080 MASTER Windows ... Read more

babeltechreviews.com

good go know, I disabled that too on my desktop computer.

I didn't know about VMP, but Memory Integrity, I knew it well. When I wanted to install the drivers of a synth, the Roland SD-50, memory integrity didnt let me to install them because they werent certified -the product was discontinued and it had drivers for Windows 10 and below, but not 11.

It's algo interesting in the article you shared that they link to an article on ReBAR and why they recommend it.

 

[orangpelupa]

HAGS made OBS recording combined with oculus link = stuttery mess until reboot

 

[orangpelupa]

Microsoft admits that virtualization and memory integrity can quite affect performance in games, and published a support article on how to disable them:

https://prod.support.services.micro...ndows-11-a255f612-2949-4373-a566-ff6f3f474613

Additionally, they finally published the Windows HDR Calibration tool. Great software tbh.

Windows HDR Calibration - Official app in the Microsoft Store

This app lets you calibrate your HDR display to optimize it for HDR games (including Auto HDR) and other HDR content on your Windows 11 PC. Go through a series of steps to set the minimum and maximum brightness levels, as well as color saturation level, to create a new color profile that's made...

apps.microsoft.com

It's sooooooo easy to use and worked like a charm with my TV. It creates a new colour profile that becomes the default profile for your TV or monitor.

cyan....
i used that and then...

now photoshop is showing GREEN as white.

how do i remove the profile?

EDIT:
nvm, found it C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color

Edit2


Btw the max nits setting via CRU still works fine. So anyone hit with issues after using hdr profile, delete the profile, and try using cru instead.

 

[Albuquerque]

orangelupa, how is it you have such crazy experiences with your pc?

Also what kind of crazy is going on with your memory usage? If you go to the processes tab, do you have an application sucking up all that memory?