I don't care about whiney people...they are always there and always whiney, waste of time.
Let them whine.
Windows 11 [2021]
- Thread starter eastmen
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I don't care about whiney people...they are always there and always whiney, waste of time.
Let them whine.
Hell, security on networked devices isn't even about the individual, it's about the network; your security is also everyone else's security, because your machine being compromised is a vector for other people's machines being compromised. It's a vector for a more significant attack on infrastructure more broadly. The security for every device that has a network connection matters to every other networked device. Given that we're starting to see oil pipelines and hospitals and power grids come under attack, I'm not very sympathetic to arguments that boil down to individual freedom of risk; it's not just you that you put at risk, and the system as a whole cannot function if this stuff isn't taken seriously at scale.
Also, Vista significantly changed the UI in a way that people were slow to adapt to, and additionally ran like garbage on min spec machines, completely changed all the driver models, breaking significant amounts of peripheral devices for months and in some cases years as developers were slow to update their drivers, and was seriously buggy at launch. Everyone wrote it off based on those initial very bad experiences. Windows 7 was crickets in large part because everything was fixed by then and it turns out that in absence of the sudden shock of all of that happening at once the general features Vista introduced were actually useful, at least with a little bit of polish to them. Windows 11 is not getting any bad reviews around usability, stability, or user interface. It's a much more organic growth out of Windows 10. The only point of conflict, thus far, is that some people who want the OS won't be able to get the OS.
Which, well, they're not going to downgrade if they get new hardware then are they?
Yeah I've gotta agree, have a decent base spec so we dont get an inferior windows because they try to be too inclusive
It can't be as bad as apple, years ago they literally were selling a mac which did not have enough memory to run programs (I know cause I brought one) Just running the OS it was OK (forget which OS X, I just remember memory needs were a lot higher than windows at the time), but open up safari with a blank page and the memory was full and it started to page to disk (forget trying to open multiple tabs or you are in for some serious HDD grinding) Hilarious I can laugh in hindsight, but man I was pissed at the time, how can they sell something so broken. At least then you could upgrade your memory without paying the apple tax.
how to disable "Disable touchpad while typing"?
any idea?
any idea?
DmitryKo
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How is that different from VBS/HVCI, i.e. trusted kernel processes as a 'host' and untrusted 3rd-party drivers and user space as a 'guest' VM?
Docker containers were designed to avoid VM overhead in the first place. Requiring hypervisor isolation is just a band-aid around process isolation incompatibility between different builds of Windows.
You don't need a Harvard degree in computer science to tell it's wrong when your game refuses to log-in because of bad DRM server connection, when an app store remotely removes your legitimate copy software over a developer dispute, or when a search engine hides the proper results based on your location.
You could add more memory/storage, and upgrade the CPU/GPU (on the desktop) - whereas this time you have to throw out anything released more than 3-4 years ago, and hand over potential control of your PC to Microsoft.
Sometimes you just have to let go of the dead-serious attitude, it's perfectly normal to accept there are things you don't fully grasp.
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DmitryKo
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That sounds like an excuze for incompetent network securty staff. What my home PC has to do with hospitals and oir pipelines? It's not on their corporate network, and I'm not responsible for their OS vulnerabilities or backdoors in their 'antivirus' / remote managment software - which by definition aren't very functionally different from actual 'spyware'/'malware', so it's not a coincidence that it causes more problems than it solves.
This was four years later, on PCs with significantly more memory and storage, with faster CPUs and video cards. It doesn't make Windows Vista hardware requirements any less outrageous for the time of its release.
The point of conflict is the requirement for TPM 2.0, and specific processor generation on top of that.
I recall 'Let Them Whine!' was the old folk tune the Three Presidentos (Ballmer, Elop, Sinofsky) were whistling as they rode the Nokia Titanic to the sunrise on the collision course with Windows 8 iceberg.
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windows 11 seems to be missing "power saver, balanced, performance, high performance" power modes in the classic control panel and in the modern settings.
manually setting the max cpu in the classic control panel also have no effect
manually setting the max cpu in the classic control panel also have no effect
Yup, agree with everything you stated here.
Hardware isolation instead of software, for starters.
What part of "it's optional, not mandatory" didn't translate into your native language? If you're changing underlying base kernel versions of the operating system, then Linux is in the same boat here too re: needing a "thick VM" instead of a container.
Literally none of this garbage has anything to do with Microsoft, or Windows, or the newest version number 11. Turns out, loading Steam on a Linux box results in the same behavior.
Shut up about DRM already, it isn't the topic and your obsessing over it is pointless.
Yes, we completely agree, you should absolutely heed your own advice on this matter. Great examples include applying your own incorrect assumptions about DRM to a Windows release, about how process isolation works in Windows, about how the STORPORT driver for NVMe on Windows works, and why a hardware enabled hypervisor makes sense in specific areas even on Linux host systems.
Btw the talk about drm requiring login. Dunno how it is on other stores but windows store games originally allows to be played without login in the store or in the game.
Everything changed a few days after the spiffing brit published a video that got really popular on YouTube that basically telling people that they can share games to unlimited people. Including gamepass games, and it doesn't matter if the gamepass is expired. The games still works.
Before that video, the drm behavior was awesomely user friendly. Allowing easy play with multiple different profiles and sharing with friends all while offline (only need internet for thr first login). It also allows a pretty lucrative gray market of people "renting" Microsoft accounts. Been like that for years. No ban. No drm policy change.
Everything changed a few days after the spiffing brit published a video that got really popular on YouTube that basically telling people that they can share games to unlimited people. Including gamepass games, and it doesn't matter if the gamepass is expired. The games still works.
Before that video, the drm behavior was awesomely user friendly. Allowing easy play with multiple different profiles and sharing with friends all while offline (only need internet for thr first login). It also allows a pretty lucrative gray market of people "renting" Microsoft accounts. Been like that for years. No ban. No drm policy change.
Hahaha, I had no idea the DRM was so loose on the Windows Apps side of things. Makes sense, it's just files loaded in your user profile. That's actually pretty surprising to know it was that loosely contained.
DRM is antagonizing for sure; it isn't the "fault" of the underlying operating system.
DRM is antagonizing for sure; it isn't the "fault" of the underlying operating system.
For years Apple pushed in adverts that they had no viruses or malware while Microsoft did. For years people pushed linux on me because it was more secure. Now MS is making windows more secure and there are so many people bitching about it.
I remember everyone bitching about kinect and having a camera and an always listening device in your house. Now alex enabled devices , siri enabled devices and facebook portal devices are in hundreds of millions of homes across the USA.
Microsoft is always ahead of the game and its "users" are always dragging them backwards only for them to praise the next thing from apple or amazon or google that is just what MS did a few years prior that hte users were complaining about.
MS needs to start making smart moves and sticking to them . This is why I wish MS just charged for this windows and gave it a new name like Windows X or something and say hey this is a security centric OS that we are fully behind. Windows 10 will exist for another 4 years and be supported but we believe in this and this is what is required to use it. That is it
I remember everyone bitching about kinect and having a camera and an always listening device in your house. Now alex enabled devices , siri enabled devices and facebook portal devices are in hundreds of millions of homes across the USA.
Microsoft is always ahead of the game and its "users" are always dragging them backwards only for them to praise the next thing from apple or amazon or google that is just what MS did a few years prior that hte users were complaining about.
MS needs to start making smart moves and sticking to them . This is why I wish MS just charged for this windows and gave it a new name like Windows X or something and say hey this is a security centric OS that we are fully behind. Windows 10 will exist for another 4 years and be supported but we believe in this and this is what is required to use it. That is it
Agree with eastmen; I'm very happy Microsoft is spending this much time and effort on security. I still think there are more things they can be doing, and part of their challenge is breaking with their enormous past in the name of a seemingly endless reach for backwards compatibility.
However, at this point, there are so many modern ways to carve off literal, physical hardware to run all that backwards compatible stuff in a secure yet still performant way while the modern world moves on. I hope to see even more of this from Microsoft in the coming months and years.
However, at this point, there are so many modern ways to carve off literal, physical hardware to run all that backwards compatible stuff in a secure yet still performant way while the modern world moves on. I hope to see even more of this from Microsoft in the coming months and years.
Security is a big business for MS , they are the biggest company involved and has grown over a 100% in the last 3 years. Windows 11 will accelerate that growth.
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-i...ng-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-65/
New build is out lots of changes ! to big for a post but i put the known issues in quotes as I think thats more important than what is fixed
New build is out lots of changes ! to big for a post but i put the known issues in quotes as I think thats more important than what is fixed
Is the install button issue listed there is the same issue I had in windows 10, I wonder.
Then scrolling down the store page and use the install button on top left may be still work
guess so, as part of DirectX 12 Ultimate as promised. Also it is going to draw a line between Windows 11 and previous versions of Windows so more reason to have it at launch. DX12 Ultimate should be more than ready, as it's already present on consoles so to speak.
New emojis for Windows 11.
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System requirements for Microsoft Windows 11 remain unchanged (guru3d.com)
July 27, 2021
Can businesses afford to upgrade to Win 11 with necessary corporate hardware upgrades? Many just migrated to Win 10 with no upgrades ...
July 27, 2021
Can businesses afford to upgrade to Win 11 with necessary corporate hardware upgrades? Many just migrated to Win 10 with no upgrades ...
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Probably a typo since Weston is Director of Enterprise and OS Security at Microsoft.
