will there be a agp, pci express amd motherboard

[Monty]

i was wondering whether there is or will be a amd motherboard with an agp slot and a pci express slot for amd 64, as i have a agp 6800 and want to upgrade to a athlon 64 but want a motherboard which supports pci express so it has quite a long lifetime.

if not, whats the best agp amd 64 motherboard out there.

 

[Phantom69]

i was wondering whether there is or will be a amd motherboard with an agp slot and a pci express slot for amd 64, as i have a agp 6800 and want to upgrade to a athlon 64 but want a motherboard which supports pci express so it has quite a long lifetime.

if not, whats the best agp amd 64 motherboard out there.

VIA's K8T890 chipset supports both AGP + PCI-e so in theory mobo manufacturers could offer both, but nothing has been released yet (not even the chipset I think).

For Intel there are some options, the Intel chipsets support both but motherboard manufacturers are prohibted from using both on a board, VIA's P4 chipset allegedly will support both though:

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=OTQzMSxGZWJydWFyeSAsMjAwNA

HTH

P69

Also, there are some P4 boards that use an AGP-express(*) slot and it is previewed here:

http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD04ODM=

(*) AGP-express is AGP running on the PCI bus and hence much slower than regular AGP.

 

[Kaotik]

i was wondering whether there is or will be a amd motherboard with an agp slot and a pci express slot for amd 64, as i have a agp 6800 and want to upgrade to a athlon 64 but want a motherboard which supports pci express so it has quite a long lifetime.

if not, whats the best agp amd 64 motherboard out there.

VIA's K8T890 chipset supports both AGP + PCI-e so in theory mobo manufacturers could offer both, but nothing has been released yet (not even the chipset I think).

For Intel there are some options, the Intel chipsets support both but motherboard manufacturers are prohibted from using both on a board, VIA's P4 chipset allegedly will support both though:

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=OTQzMSxGZWJydWFyeSAsMjAwNA

HTH

P69

Also, there are some P4 boards that use an AGP-express(*) slot and it is previewed here:

http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD04ODM=

(*) AGP-express is AGP running on the PCI bus and hence much slower than regular AGP.

WTF?
To my knowledge, i9x5's only support PCI Express for graphics, not AGP at all.
This "AGP Express" is, as stated, PCI bus in AGP's clothes (or actually 2 PCI busses in AGP's clothes) so it's irrelevant.

AFAIK, VIA is the only chipset manufacturer which will support both AGP and PEG, and they do it only on one chipset (well 2, one for A64 and one for P4)

 

[Phantom69]

I maybe wrong then about the i9x5 series, I based my knowledge on this quote from the HardOCP article referenced above:

Sources in Taiwan explain to us that the new Alderwood and Grantsdale chipsets from Intel will support AGP and PCI Express also, but the luxury of supporting both will not be allowed. This puts VIA in a very advantageous position of being able to supply motherboards to the enthusiast with a much easier upgrade path to those that do not want to purchase a new videocard.

P69

 

[Monty]

thanks for the info,

looks like i'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Kaotik]

I maybe wrong then about the i9x5 series, I based my knowledge on this quote from the HardOCP article referenced above:

Sources in Taiwan explain to us that the new Alderwood and Grantsdale chipsets from Intel will support AGP and PCI Express also, but the luxury of supporting both will not be allowed. This puts VIA in a very advantageous position of being able to supply motherboards to the enthusiast with a much easier upgrade path to those that do not want to purchase a new videocard.

P69

Well remembering that there's not a single i9x5 mobo out there with AGP, I really doubt that.
Heck, there hasn't been even protoboards shown with AGP anywhere to my knowledge :?

 

[T2k]

Intel said they will not release anything like that... dunno where I read...