what benchmark results matter to you?

[Sage]

Okay, let's say you have a searchable database of benchmark results. Something where you can decide what cards and what benchmarks you want to see compared. Now, the question turns to resolution and AA/AF settings. It's easy to include several settings in a graph or table, but when you're talking about a searchable database then things get a lot more complicated, and complicated = expensive.

expensive = bad for me = it might not happen, so please think how acceptable it would be to have one of the top two options. This is not "I like answer C" but, rather, "yeah, B would work for me even if I might not prefer it."

 

[jvd]

I know it will take a long ass time but i would love to see every kind of result and filter that way.

IF i look at a geforce 6800ultra and a x800xt and I see that they are almost equal at 4x / 16x I know they can both go higher in fsaa . So i would search for the next fsaa lvl 8 for nvidia and 6 for ati.

If i see that ati is getting 90fps and nvidia is getting 40ish then it helps me make a desicion.

I bought a 9700pro to play with 4x almost 2 years ago. Since we only have one true dx 9 game i'd like to use a higher fsaa with my 500$ video card .

 

[Sage]

I know it will take a long ass time but i would love to see every kind of result and filter that way.

I wish it were only a question of time. However, a programmers time costs money... and money is not something I have in grea abundance... unless someone wants to chip in?

 

[KimB]

I kind of like the fillrate graphs that Beyond3D does.

 

[Sage]

I kind of like the fillrate graphs that Beyond3D does.

do you know if it would be easy (cheap) to have a script made that would generate graphs like that? It would be nice, but I'm looking at very limited cash here... the site design alone will cost me maybe as low as $500.... that doesnt include all of the database programming and scripts to access it.

 

[KimB]

Well, I was thinking of just generating the graphs in Excel, using formulas there to generate the appropriate fillrate values. I don't know of an elegant way to generate a graph like this on the fly.

 

[LeStoffer]

It's easy to include several settings in a graph or table, but when you're talking about a searchable database then things get a lot more complicated, and complicated = expensive.

This is the age of not only the internet but also dynamic webpages = database driven pages. At some point it is actually easier to maintain a database than having to make a large number of graphs by hand.

The expensive part about the database is the time to learn and set the whole thing up. PHP and MySQL is free after all (and so is Apache and Linux BTW for a totally free software server package).

Once the database and the webcode (PHP e.g.) is in place to present the data, you can go on a holiday to Hawaii log into the database and update it easily with the lastest and greatest without having to think about tables or graphs ever again.

 

[KimB]

Speaking of which, I know how you can access database data within a webpage, but how would you do the graphs? The only way I could think of that would be truly dynamic would be to have a java applet that generates the graph from data supplied to the webpage from the database.

Are there server-side applications for automatically generating .jpg's or .gif's out of graphs made from the database? If you could write a script to do this, you wouldn't really even need much of a database, just a spreadsheet that is in a certain format, with a script that can operate on any spreadsheet. The update would consist of uploading the spreadsheet and executing the script on the spreadsheet.

In Linux one might do this by using gnuplot or somesuch, but I don't know how you'd get the image in a web-friendly format...

 

[LeStoffer]

www.dmxzone.com is an excellent ressource which have a ton of very usefull stuff. All they ask is a couple of dollars for their Premium Content.

I just had a quick glance, so there might be better options:

http://www.dmxzone.com/ShowDetail.asp?NewsId=5919

http://www.dmxzone.com/showDetail.asp?TypeId=28&NewsId=6442

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

OT: I passed PHP and Databases.

MySQL is cool but PHP sucks. I prefer ASP.NET.

 

[Nappe1]

OT: I passed PHP and Databases.

MySQL is cool but PHP sucks. I prefer ASP.NET.

naah, both (Pre Hypertext Prosessor (php) & Advanced Server Pages (asp)) aren't my way doing things. I prefer ColdFusion (cfm).



(basically, who gives a darn which server script extension you are using, as long as it does the job. In some cases even CGI with Perl or Mod Perl can be the best way implementing things.)

 

[LeStoffer]

(basically, who gives a darn which server script extension you are using, as long as it does the job. In some cases even CGI with Perl or Mod Perl can be the best way implementing things.)

Well, the choice matters when you have to pay the bill for your webhotel. The cheap ones comes with PHP and most with .asp for free. I don't know about ASP.NET but coldfusion or .jsp tends to be at the more expensive and professional end of things.

Add to that the fact that the server script extension might be locked in with the database. The cheapo webhotel I have comes with eitherPHP+MySQL or ASP+Access.

Cost was the main reason that I mentioned PHP and MySQL.

 

[gsgrunt]

I know it will take a long ass time but i would love to see every kind of result and filter that way.

I wish it were only a question of time. However, a programmers time costs money... and money is not something I have in grea abundance... unless someone wants to chip in?

I'll volunteer to help you out with the code.

Short Resume:

Current Job: Senior Engineer

My first major project with this company was DX6 3D simulation engine. Since then, the passed 5 years, I've been writing web based applications futilely hoping for another D3D or openGL project to come in.

Web stuff I've worked with in order of experience.

Server Side

J2EE (JSP + straight servlets)
.NET Web Services
VB WebClasses
XML/XSL
PHP
ASP
CGI/perl

Client Side

HTML
JavaScript
Java Applets
Macromedia Flash
Macromedia Director (Shockwave3D)
ActiveX OCX
Netscape Plugins


Databases

MS SQL Server
Oracle 9i
mySQL

I also have some system and database administration experience due too setting up and maintaining servers for our development teams to use.

I can commit to 8 hours a week until we get the thing rolling. That may not sound like a lot of time, but I work very quickly when I'm excited about a project (my wife can verify this ).

Warning: My commitment to the project may decrease temporally after Doom3 is released .

 

[PeterAce]

This is easy to do with a Relational Database, a Webserver and somthing like Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) for the graphs.

 

[Quitch]

I'd choose A, it makes the the easiest comparisons. While B and C are cleaner, it does make comparisons a bit of a pain. Much easier to do A, then open a second tab for whatever you want to compare against. Wonderful.

Anyway, after that rambling, A!

 

[Tim Murray]

uhhh... you can generate images on the fly using GD and PHP... it's not exactly hard. no need for SVG or similar stupid things.

 

[PP]

I'm running a little proyect from six months, it's a searchable database in two forms: reviews and benchmark results. In the benchmark part, you can search any resolution AA AF settings, drivers, and 4 bencharmarks (the most extended based on my own reviews DB). This benchmark part serves me to store data from benchmarks of my webpage users too. Charts are dinamically generated without GD, only tables. It's not nice as GD but it's faster (I'm in a free server).

You can take a look here:
http://www.usuarios.lycos.es/gpumania/busqueda.php?bq=1

Some text it's in spanish, but it's easy to use.

And sorry for my english.

 

[Sage]

I'll volunteer to help you out with the code.

eeeeeeeexcellent!

and, guys, I don't know a bit about this stuff. I cannot learn it, believe me I've tried. I've finally broken down to see about PAYING someone to do it. I can get the site design for possibly as low as $500... but that does not include the MySQL and PHP programming. We are deciding what exactly needs to be done so that we can come up with a cost for that. Now, I live with my parents and don't have a job. I am 20 (in Aug) and haven't even graduated high school or gotten a GED. Money is not something that I have a great supply of, and liekly will end up having to borrow a good bit from my parents, assming I can convince them to loan it to me :? SO it's not as simple as "taking the time to learn it."

 

[ninelven]

I want pie charts. Where did all the pie charts go?

 

[gsgrunt]

I'll volunteer to help you out with the code.

eeeeeeeexcellent!

OK I'll start tonight building a DB schema diagram that will support all 3 options plus a few more .