djskribbles
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when did he confirm this? all i've seen was they said it ran at at least 30fps at the time and that was a month ago.
Unreal Tournament III Discussion *renamed*
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I love it when sites/magazines make claims like that. I guess it was running FRAPS in the corner...
"Nerve-Damage"
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I love it when sites/magazines make claims like that. I guess it was running FRAPS in the corner...
Not if the "~" menu is present within the PS3 UT3 developers demo; that could bring up frame count or whatever else.
Anyhow, if its true and confirmed by an Epic developer…this would mean the PS3 is a monster with the Unreal 3 Engine. I guess those Sony Ninjas helping Epic maybe paying off.
"Nerve-Damage"
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Link???
http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34759
He makes a few posts in the thread, the quote in question is post #46.
"Nerve-Damage"
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Which begs the question, why lock it at all?
Why not have the end-user option (in game) of selecting the lock rock solid 30fps or the 60fps varies (or whatever you want to call it) mode.
Let the console freaks enjoy what the PC freaks enjoy…choice!
New interview with Rein on eurogamer:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=81905
He does mention that he has both more frames and more detail than in GoW on 360 last year, but that says little about whether or not that amounts to 60fps of course.
Still I could see them going for it, because it suits the game and it's a challenge put down by Id as well. Besides, those Ace PS3 coders from Sony ought to count for something. (was that really even true, that Sony dispatched some coders to help with UE? I assume it was, but not sure whether or not that was really just until this early summer)
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=81905
He does mention that he has both more frames and more detail than in GoW on 360 last year, but that says little about whether or not that amounts to 60fps of course.
Still I could see them going for it, because it suits the game and it's a challenge put down by Id as well. Besides, those Ace PS3 coders from Sony ought to count for something.
(was that really even true, that Sony dispatched some coders to help with UE? I assume it was, but not sure whether or not that was really just until this early summer)Seems like the UT3 engine is running a hell of a lot better than it was for gears (more polys, more materials, more characters, more bots and a seemingly much higher framerate).
I'd love to find out if this was to do with PS3 or just because they already know about their engine from making Gears and it just required some polish for PS3.
I'd love to find out if this was to do with PS3 or just because they already know about their engine from making Gears and it just required some polish for PS3.
Besides, those Ace PS3 coders from Sony ought to count for something.
Phil Harrison said they sent some people to them. Not sure when, or for how long.
Anyway, yeah, sounds good for now re. performance.
So 30fps seems to be their final framerate target, though I wonder if the framerate will be the same between both console versions.
Well that effectively puts to rest which is the more technically impressive game; Gears or UT3. Rein clearly states that UT3 is a fair way ahead in many areas.
He does state that its because of what they learned from Gears though as opposed to any platform specific capabilities.
Interesting to hear that Gears is running "Very, very well" on the PC aswell. There were many that doubted anything but a top end PC could handle it. Strange that Epic are choosing to release both Gears and UT3 on the PC in the same month though! And alongside Crysis and CoD4? Ahhh spending frenzy!!
You must have read some different text to me then, as he states nothing of the sort.
You cannot assume it's nothing to do with the PS3 just because he only mentions he might've learned something about the engine from making Gears.
Have you read something else that clearly states the PS3 has nothing to do with the improvements?
I detect a little wishfull thinking going on there.
This is what he said:
The bolding is mine. It seems pretty damn clear to me that he's saying the performance improvements of UT3 on PS3 can be attributed to the experience gained with Gears on 360. If you choose to assume instead that its because of the "PS3's superior capabilities" then thats fine but I see nothing in the interview to support such an assumption.
It's not wishful thinking, I'd just like to know, although my posting history gives you that easy out.
Yes gears gave them a headstart on the PS3 version here, but look at what he's saying.
More polys, more characters, more particles, more materials.... and he all but confirmed the demo being shown is running at 60fps (Gears when demo'd pre-release struggled to hit 30 fps).
Seems like bit too much of an improvement to me to be just down to their engine and any optimisations they may have done.
If he just said more polys and it was only running at 30fps like Gears does most of the time I'd buy it, but not all that and double the framerate.
PS3 has a massive CPU advantage if used correctly and Sony's own staff going to help certainly would've helped in that area.
Yes gears gave them a headstart on the PS3 version here, but look at what he's saying.
More polys, more characters, more particles, more materials.... and he all but confirmed the demo being shown is running at 60fps (Gears when demo'd pre-release struggled to hit 30 fps).
Seems like bit too much of an improvement to me to be just down to their engine and any optimisations they may have done.
If he just said more polys and it was only running at 30fps like Gears does most of the time I'd buy it, but not all that and double the framerate.
PS3 has a massive CPU advantage if used correctly and Sony's own staff going to help certainly would've helped in that area.
No he doesn't. In the statement I quoted above he says its running a little faster. He never mentions any specific framerates.
I think your reading reading too much into what he's saying.
archangelmorph
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pjbliverpool;1053655 The bolding is mine. It seems pretty damn clear to me that he's saying the performance improvements of UT3 on PS3 can be attributed to the experience gained with Gears on 360. If you choose to assume instead that its because of the "PS3's superior capabilities" then thats fine but I see nothing in the interview to support such an assumption.[/QUOTE said:
Not in that interview, but if you look a little bit up you can see a forum post from him saying it.
No now it is wishful thinking (
). He stated that he dont know the framerate range but aknowledged that frame capping was off. He also said it was level specific and that number of bots and level size has to be taken into account. Neverthless he said the final will be capped to 30fps. This alone would mean they cant mantain 60fps in all levels/game situations. :smile:http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34759
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