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If I had been waiting for something but at some 'deadline' it did not come, so I do not need it anymore, why does life send it to me later when I can make no use of it?
Why is life so mean to me, I have the feeling that it laughs at me all the time!
It forces you to change the direction, and once you have already done it, it sends you something which can be helpful or a solution but from the past directions?! Why?!
Why is life so mean to me, I have the feeling that it laughs at me all the time!
It forces you to change the direction, and once you have already done it, it sends you something which can be helpful or a solution but from the past directions?! Why?!
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"Every day, the little Ant arrived early at work and started working. She was producing and was pleased. The boss, Lion, was surprised that Ant works without supervision.
"If she produces so much unattended, could she produce more if someone keeps her under surveillance?"- He thought.
So he recruited Cockroach who had extensive experience as a supervisor and could prepare wonderful reports.
The first decision of Cockroach was to introduce access control for Ant. Then Cockroach needed a secretary to help with the preparation of reports and Spider was hired, who also archives and deals with monitoring of telephone conversations.
Lion was fascinated by Cockroach' reports and asked for graphics of the production and trend analysis to present them at meetings specially organised for this purpose. For this purpose, Cockroach was bought a computer, laser printer and Fly was hired to lead the Department of Informatics.
Ant, formerly productive and happy, was so desperate because of so many papers and meetings that it took up the entire time!
Lion came to the conclusion that the time had come to establish 'Office in charge of the sector' where Ant works. The post was entrusted to Cricket, whose first decision was to buy a carpet and an ergonomic chair for his desk. The new in charge, Cricket, also needed a computer and assistant (who he took from the previous job), to help him in preparation of a strategic plan to optimise and control the budget for the sector, at this stage working Ant had no longer fun and every day became more and more angry.
Meanwhile, Cricket convinced Leo of the absolute necessity for a study of the environment. After examining the workload, Lion noticed that Ant's sector already produced less than before. He hired Owl, a famous consultant, to perform audits and suggest solutions. Owl spent three months in the office and made a huge report in several volumes, with the conclusion: "There are many staff in this establishment."
Guess who was fired first by Lion?
Ant, of course, because she "shows lack of motivation and conflict behaviour."
"If she produces so much unattended, could she produce more if someone keeps her under surveillance?"- He thought.
So he recruited Cockroach who had extensive experience as a supervisor and could prepare wonderful reports.
The first decision of Cockroach was to introduce access control for Ant. Then Cockroach needed a secretary to help with the preparation of reports and Spider was hired, who also archives and deals with monitoring of telephone conversations.
Lion was fascinated by Cockroach' reports and asked for graphics of the production and trend analysis to present them at meetings specially organised for this purpose. For this purpose, Cockroach was bought a computer, laser printer and Fly was hired to lead the Department of Informatics.
Ant, formerly productive and happy, was so desperate because of so many papers and meetings that it took up the entire time!
Lion came to the conclusion that the time had come to establish 'Office in charge of the sector' where Ant works. The post was entrusted to Cricket, whose first decision was to buy a carpet and an ergonomic chair for his desk. The new in charge, Cricket, also needed a computer and assistant (who he took from the previous job), to help him in preparation of a strategic plan to optimise and control the budget for the sector, at this stage working Ant had no longer fun and every day became more and more angry.
Meanwhile, Cricket convinced Leo of the absolute necessity for a study of the environment. After examining the workload, Lion noticed that Ant's sector already produced less than before. He hired Owl, a famous consultant, to perform audits and suggest solutions. Owl spent three months in the office and made a huge report in several volumes, with the conclusion: "There are many staff in this establishment."
Guess who was fired first by Lion?
Ant, of course, because she "shows lack of motivation and conflict behaviour."
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What a wonderful allegorical fable. Thank you for posting it!There's several (rather short) fables in various issues of Mike Mignola's Hellboy, particularly in the story when Hellboy visits Africa. The longer story about Makoma (re-published in Hellboy Library Edition volume 4) is also fablical in nature in a way.
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My friends are everywhere my friends. I do not divide them in different categories according to the place where I met them, or how much I like them...
work "friends" vs real friends, as an instance.
https://www.wetfeet.com/articles/work-friends-vs-real-friends
It's disgusting and not fair!
work "friends" vs real friends, as an instance.
https://www.wetfeet.com/articles/work-friends-vs-real-friends
It's disgusting and not fair!
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Why Nothing Is Truly Alive
Life is a concept, not a reality.
To better understand this argument, it’s helpful to distinguish between mental models and pure concepts. Sometimes the brain creates a representation of a thing: light bounces off a pine tree and into our eyes; molecules waft from its needles and ping neurons in our nose; the brain instantly weaves together these sensations with our memories to create a mental model of that tree. Other times the brain develops a pure concept based on observations — a useful way of thinking about the world. Our idealized notion of “a tree” is a pure concept. There is no such thing as “a tree” in the world outside the mind. Rather, there are billions of individual plants we have collectively named trees. You might think botanists have a precise unfailing definition of a tree — they don’t. Sometimes it’s really difficult to say whether a plant is a tree or shrub because “tree” and “shrub” are not properties intrinsic to plants — they are ideas we impinged on them.
Likewise, “life” is an idea. We find it useful to think of some things as alive and others as inanimate, but this division exists only in our heads.
Life is a concept, not a reality.
To better understand this argument, it’s helpful to distinguish between mental models and pure concepts. Sometimes the brain creates a representation of a thing: light bounces off a pine tree and into our eyes; molecules waft from its needles and ping neurons in our nose; the brain instantly weaves together these sensations with our memories to create a mental model of that tree. Other times the brain develops a pure concept based on observations — a useful way of thinking about the world. Our idealized notion of “a tree” is a pure concept. There is no such thing as “a tree” in the world outside the mind. Rather, there are billions of individual plants we have collectively named trees. You might think botanists have a precise unfailing definition of a tree — they don’t. Sometimes it’s really difficult to say whether a plant is a tree or shrub because “tree” and “shrub” are not properties intrinsic to plants — they are ideas we impinged on them.
Likewise, “life” is an idea. We find it useful to think of some things as alive and others as inanimate, but this division exists only in our heads.
If I stomp on your foot, will you roar in pain?
If not, you're not alive.
/debunked!
Getting hung up on sometimes nebulous definitions of what is a tree or what is a bush is pointless grotting in semantics, especially when most of the time the distinction is perfectly clear to everyone.
If not, you're not alive.
/debunked!
Getting hung up on sometimes nebulous definitions of what is a tree or what is a bush is pointless grotting in semantics, especially when most of the time the distinction is perfectly clear to everyone.
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Well, not always, there are plants which I cannot say whether they are trees or shrubs because they have characteristics of both.
However, they are right, I presume. The idea is that from the global side of things, from an alien observer, the trees (or a group in a certain place) on our planet can be viewed for example as a huge organism, and the individual tree is like some kind of a cell in it.
Consciousness is 'alive' and real, however, I presume, it should not be virtual as it should have some type of physical media to exist.
Anyways, more interesting highlights from the news section, showing how much damage as humans we produce on the surrounding environment and creatures.
Powerlines interrupt animal dwellings to appear as disturbing flashes of ultraviolet light invisible to the human eye
Most animals cannot see ultraviolet light, those who can are mostly insects and don't have 'dwellings', per se, some are crustaceans (whom, for obvious reasons, live far, far from powerlines.)
Also, many things are alive without having consciousness. The 'alive' qualifying metric generally is if the entity in question has metabolism or not. Viruses for example, are typically not considered as being alive, while bacteria (decidedly lacking in consciousness!), are.
Also, many things are alive without having consciousness. The 'alive' qualifying metric generally is if the entity in question has metabolism or not. Viruses for example, are typically not considered as being alive, while bacteria (decidedly lacking in consciousness!), are.
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Well, cats and dogs see ultraviolet, and also the article itself claims that many other animal species like birds, elephants, etc do see ultraviolet!
Maybe our intervention is also an explanation why some of them even commit suicides, like whales...
If water has memory:
New Research Supports The Theory That Water Has Memory
then I wouldn't be surprised at all if stones and toys actually do have consciousness of some type!
Have you watched movies in which toys are actually alive? Where do you think these ideas come from?
Maybe our intervention is also an explanation why some of them even commit suicides, like whales...
If water has memory:
New Research Supports The Theory That Water Has Memory
then I wouldn't be surprised at all if stones and toys actually do have consciousness of some type!
Have you watched movies in which toys are actually alive? Where do you think these ideas come from?
Those ideas obviously came from someone's imagination. How on earth would inanimate objects have a consciousness? That's just superstition.
Btw, the claim that water has memory is complete and utter bullshit. Nonsense like that is lies propagated by homeopathy fraudsters. (Btw, homeopathy does not work, at all. Don't believe the lies!)
Btw, the claim that water has memory is complete and utter bullshit. Nonsense like that is lies propagated by homeopathy fraudsters. (Btw, homeopathy does not work, at all. Don't believe the lies!)
In eastern spiritual philosophies they say that everything has consciousness but the definition of consciousness in those philosophoes is different than how it is interpreted in the west through science because its perceived though a different scope. They arent talking about the same thing. The former views the whole universe as having consciousness. Hence oneness is often the theme of these philosophies. The universe has a logic and its own set of rules. Its energy manifests itself into different forms. A rock is a manifestation of that. As well as living beings which are more evolved forms of consciousness than a rock and have self realization. A human has more developed consciousness than a one cell organism for example and a one cell organism has a more developed consciousness than an atom. Science though defines consciousness as in a more personal level. Does it have perception? Does it react to its environment? I accept both views. They are talking about something different
Just food for thought
I know an occasion of severe post labor depression. The woman was on heavy antidepressants and the psychiatrist said that she would have to take them forever since it wasnt going away. She got too addicted to them. Antidepresants were making it worse too as the psychiatrists dont have a methodology to see exactly what the brain needs or what the dysfunction is in the patient's brain. The antidepresants were fucking her brains. There is also no methodology to measure if the medicine truly worked and how it worked in the patient's brain. The doctors just make questions. One doctor will tell you you have this disorder while another will tell you that you have depression. Psychitric methodologies are extremely unreliable.
Anyways she reached a point that her life was almost unbearable so her husband took her against her will to a homeopath as a last resort. He gave her a tiny sphere the size of a niddle's head. She didnt believe him that crap would work. For the next week she could barely move and the homeopath told her this is exactly what he wanted to hear and told her to revisit him. He gave her another one the size of a niddle. The next day she was like a completely diffetent person and threw the antidepresants away. She had way too much energy and her smell senses since then are elevated to the point she cant take the smell of perfumes.
If its placebo it worked marvelously. Much more narvelously than the chemical placebo.
I have my doubts about homeopathy but there are some stories that make me wonder
Where's this story from? How do you know a single word of it is true?
Homeopathy has never been clinically shown to work (there have been many scientific studies and never EVER has it performed better than sugar pills or the like).
Also, it CAN'T work, because it's all based on the completely bullshit premise that likes counter each other (IE, if you have a fever you take something that makes you feel hot - like chili powder for example). Bullshit from beginning to end.
Also, there's no active ingredients in at all in a homeopathic preparation. It's been so diluted that if there's a single molecule left of the "active ingredient" in the entire dose you're lucky, due to the counter-logic bullshit belief that the weaker the dose the more potent it is. And no, water does not have any "memory". If it did, you could just take a gulp of seawater and cure any disease in existence without having to visit a hugely overpriced homeopath.
Btw, re. consciousness and so on; you can find examples of the supposedly 'eastern' philosophy you mention in the west too, amongst druids and such. Possibly neolithic earth goddess worshipping and so on. It's just superstition, projecting human(-like) notions on inanimate objects, nothing more. It's not a question of science VERSUS philosophy or something like that - science is what IS. Science explains what actually occurs to cause consciousness, the electro-chemical reactions in our brains. Science IS life.
A rock is not alive, not even a great big ball of rock like planet earth. The universe as a whole is not alive; stars and galaxies are big but they're not alive. How the hell could they be?
Homeopathy has never been clinically shown to work (there have been many scientific studies and never EVER has it performed better than sugar pills or the like).
Also, it CAN'T work, because it's all based on the completely bullshit premise that likes counter each other (IE, if you have a fever you take something that makes you feel hot - like chili powder for example). Bullshit from beginning to end.
Also, there's no active ingredients in at all in a homeopathic preparation. It's been so diluted that if there's a single molecule left of the "active ingredient" in the entire dose you're lucky, due to the counter-logic bullshit belief that the weaker the dose the more potent it is. And no, water does not have any "memory". If it did, you could just take a gulp of seawater and cure any disease in existence without having to visit a hugely overpriced homeopath.
Btw, re. consciousness and so on; you can find examples of the supposedly 'eastern' philosophy you mention in the west too, amongst druids and such. Possibly neolithic earth goddess worshipping and so on. It's just superstition, projecting human(-like) notions on inanimate objects, nothing more. It's not a question of science VERSUS philosophy or something like that - science is what IS. Science explains what actually occurs to cause consciousness, the electro-chemical reactions in our brains. Science IS life.
A rock is not alive, not even a great big ball of rock like planet earth. The universe as a whole is not alive; stars and galaxies are big but they're not alive. How the hell could they be?
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Grall, you don't sound like an European citizen at all, I mean from the Nordic countries, more likely from somewhere from the left side of the Atlantic ocean!
the thing about homeopathy that I dont understand (Ive seen it a few times)
often the sceptics claim the water contains like 1 million trillion billionth part of the original amount (or something, I'll try for a google later)
but the thing is if you do the maths theres not enuf water in the world for this to be true
i.e. yes homeopathy is bollux, but Im saying dont counter that by putting out bollux figures as well
often the sceptics claim the water contains like 1 million trillion billionth part of the original amount (or something, I'll try for a google later)
but the thing is if you do the maths theres not enuf water in the world for this to be true
i.e. yes homeopathy is bollux, but Im saying dont counter that by putting out bollux figures as well
It was my aunt. I wont comment about how homeopathy works or not. Thats besides the point. The matter is that we saw these amazing results. As a placebo, assuming it is one, it worked tremendously well. Way too well. Depression is not like sadness and melancholy. It is a very ugly condition that is extremely hard to get out from.
You misunderstood me and you comprehended something else than what I described about the eastern perception of "consciousness". You are talking about something different. You are thinking about religion, traditions and superstition, which yes they DO exist in the east and I dont agree with them. You are talking about the concept that objects have a soul. This is not what I am talking about.
But because you have this image in your mind you didnt get what I said and I dont know how else to put it. Let me give another example. Quantum theory is the closest you can get to what I described since it often goes against the laws of physics. Once you go to the quantum world the laws are different, and the perceived difference between a piece of wood and a piece of rock is vanished. In the quantum world they look the same. You see what the universe is made of. You werent created in another dimension and then shoved in this one by an invisible entity. Obviously your body, your matter is an evolution of trillions of years in the Universe which finally resulted in many things including you. Also there is also the theory that photons may have "consciousness" due to their strange behavior. If you study enough of these eastern philosophies you will start looking beyond the traditions and religions and you will begin to notice the similarities. In Quantum mechanics and string theory scientists have even considered the possibility that how we perceive the world is an illusion. This is also another concept described in those eastern philosophies. The concept of consciousness in that respect goes beyond the ability of something to react to the environment and feel stuff
I dont see why you feel the need to defend science. I didnt doubt science and I dont believe in creationism.
