Spider-Man 2 [PS5, PC]

[chris1515]

You can't possibly tell from that angle view with respect to the normal of the water surface if it's ray-traced or SSR. That angle could show SSR being identical to RT. The only way to know for sure is if the camera was lowered to nearly perpendicular to the normal on that water and see if the reflections start to gradually fade out. If it was ray-traced, they certainly rendered that scene at one of the smallest resolutions I've ever seen in a game with RT reflections in order to take advantage of not being able to fire multiple rays (which would induce noise) to create a real blurred reflection.

Again someone from Insomniac confirm they use raytraced water.

 

[Karamazov]

looking good here !

 

[chris1515]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1662333880622260225

The post retweeted by John is by a graphic coder of EA.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1604034006546206720

 

[troyan]

Here is a part of the video with interaction:

Guess real time wouldnt look like that, huh? "Faking" water is easy. PS4 games like The Witcher 3 and Arhkam Knights have done it 8 years ago.

 

[Rootax]

The community manager of Insomniac Games confims what John Linneman told.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/spider-man-2-releases-fall-2023.722677/reply?quote=106284771

Can you share the post for the people without a resetera account ?

 

[Nesh]

The water shader and water behaviour are probably killing whatever the RT reflections are supposed to improve

 

[troyan]

There is no raytracing:

The reflection of the fire doesnt look right.

 

[chris1515]

Can you share the post for the people without a resetera account ?

Someone said to him John Linemann of Digitalfoundry told the water is raytraced and he answers John Linneman is smart.

 

[Jupiter]

There is no raytracing:

The reflection of the fire doesnt look right.

That doesn't mean it isn't using ray tracing. For particles there is often a separate setting for reflections. See Control.

 

[Rootax]

If it is raytraced, I wonder if the performance hit is worth the visuals "upgrade" vs a faster solution. Even if I'm not that interested in SM2, the game, so far, I'm interested in all the tech. Can't wait for the release and the DF vidéo

 

[troyan]

That doesn't mean it isn't using ray tracing. For particles there is often a separate setting for reflections. See Control.

Maybe there is raytracing in these ingame cutscenes but in actual gameplay there isnt anything...

/edit: Here is the scene from the trailer:

Na, is old school animation of the fire and the "reflection" is fake.

 

[VFX_Veteran]

Again someone from Insomniac confirm they use raytraced water.

That's fine. It would normally look better than SSR by being sharper and then applying a post process to it (like all games using RT reflections). And I can see them having to render the scene at a much lower resolution than normal for such a large area to sample from.

 

[VFX_Veteran]

There is no raytracing:

The reflection of the fire doesnt look right.

It's a low res sample and won't contain transparency like the actual render of the fire.

 

[Shortbread]

I just want the PC version hopefully by Fall of next year. Then maybe the RT that's being used will look more transformative in the outdoor areas of the game. Hopefully, Alex or John will do a full analysis of the SM2 gameplay trailer.

 

[chris1515]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1662288897362018305

 

[Cynicalking]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1662288897362018305

LOL people sure are funny.

 

[I'mDudditz!]

looking good here !

posted on Neogaf a comparison to a spiderman movie. It is really impressive they can achieve this. Insomniac is very talented.

 

[trinibwoy]

The water splash physics / rendering really is terrible. Hopefully it’s just a work in progress.

 

[chris1515]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1662805932839927808

 

[chris1515]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1664285875998703616

From Eurogamer interview of the Spiderman 2 game director it is possible to switch between Peter Parker and Miles Morales at any moment.

You'll be able to - in the open world - freely switch between them with a simple button press." This is thanks to the power of the PlayStation 5.
Another talking point was the game's use of Surveillance Towers to unfog its map. "They're not towers in this next game," Intihar adds.

EDIT:

Here's how character switching in Spider-Man 2 works

Insomniac Games' Bryan Intihar and Ryan Smith explain how character switching in Spider-Man 2 works.

www.eurogamer.net

Spider-Man 2: How Insomniac Set Out to Create a 'Borderline Brutal' Venom Suit - IGN

Insomniac Games reveals how it set out to create a borderline brutal new iteration of the famous Symbiote Venom suit for Peter Parker in the upcoming Marvel's Spider-Man 2.

www.ign.com