mckmas8808
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Hold your horses scooby. At least wait until R* or Square says that those games are going to 360 first. Let them make the announcement before you go through your whole domonation post. Slow down.
Sony running out of PS3 dev kits
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MechanizedDeath
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MS is launching 6 months before the PS3, and didn't have much to show for it. I think we're just seeing the usual rushjob for launch titles. This should have no bearing on launch schedules. If they want to launch in the US in Spring, they'll do so. PEACE.
scooby_dooby
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mckmas8808 said:
I said "possibly "
meaning if they lose them it makes it even less likely they'll be able to close the gap. If they keep em, well that's one big positive.
On that topic though, GTA is totally up in the air, but FF is pretty much in the bag. Wait until Square says it? I believe the president of Square said "full support of XBOX 360" at the e# conference, I mean I don't know what you consider full support but I thought that was pretty straight forward.
They can laucnh in the spring if they want to, but I don't think it's a wise move. Parents won't be intersted in buying one for their kids, part-timers will be broke from their 360 purchase, and the media coverage is nothing compared to a holiday launch, they also risk having a weak launch line-up against a strong MS line-up and that could be fatal.
Not to mention, spring is also the scheduled release date of GOW, and maybe Halo 3 as well. That's some damn tough competition for a launch-lineup to go up against.
If you think back, and are honest, PS has never had a strong launch line-up. PS2 was terrible, I'm sure it's a different story now, they know they can't repeat that again, but still, if history's anything to go by, I wouldn't expect an amazing launch line-up for the PS3.
I think they'd be better served to give up some of their market share and wait for x-mas, then they can have a nice library of titles, and at least make a big splash.
scooby_dooby said:
During E3, I think Square pretty much confirmed that next installment of FF is going to PS3, so I don't see FF going to Xbox360.
Again, we only know what is coming to Xbox360 and nothing about PS3, so too early to judge anything. I am sure we will hear plenty more about PS3(and Revolution) launch games within this year.
If history shows anything, market leadership changes only when leader of last generation makes major mistakes, and only time that occured is back in PS and N64 days..when Nintendo decided not to go with CD format and releasing it way too late.
Surely, Xbox360 will gain marketshare, but unless Sony makes major mistakes, PS3 will retain market leadership.
I am not sure why people are jumping to the conclusion that M$'s early start will gain them larger yeilds...they dont have a strong launch line up at all and the games that do look interesting (GoW) aren't coming to shelves till 2006. Bottom line people are going to wait (and by people I mean not us since we are the hardcore not the average consumer) just like they did when dreamcast/ps2 launched before making a well informed purchase decision.
scooby_dooby
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JasonLD said:
He didn't confirm anything of the sort. From what I remember he said something to the effect that they are working on a FF game that will appear on PS3.
That's it. Anything else you want to take from that is nothing more than your own hasty assumptions.
He also said they are commiting full support to X360. Full Support. With many more games to come, he said. This is SE, they can't say full support unless that includes their #1 franchise.
That's your opinion. I see a handful of games (around 5) coming out before the end of the year that I would strongly consider buying. And that's more than most console launches.jboldiga said:
scooby_dooby
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jboldiga said:
Aren't PD0 and Kameo both scheduled for launch?
Those are both amazing games to have for a system launch.
BOOMEXPLODE
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Launches are a tricky thing...most systems on day one don't have a very good software library...Nintendo is the only company pretty much gauranteed to have some great games from the start (but they screw it up sometimes too)
scooby_dooby said:
Assumptions? It is you who's making assumptions that FF is going to Xbox360. (I am not talking about FFXI)
That is from official press release, I think that pretty much confirms that next FF is going to PS3. Also, I think PS3 is getting "full support" as well.
Jeez, that wasn't even my major point. What I wanted to say was it is too early to judge anything about PS3 since Xbox360 only looks good now because it is only console with known games(duh, it is going to be released this year), we will surely hear about PS3 launch games so lets decide when Sony announces launch lineup.
scooby_dooby
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well, believe it or not, FF sells alot more copies in the US than it does in Japan.
And money talks. MS has made a deal with Square, I'm sure involving many millions of dollars, and they now have full support. I don't know why you guys refuse to believe the words coming out of his mouth.
"many more games to come", "full support", "ff Xi confirmed"....hmmm
FF is going multi-platform, that's just the way it is.
And money talks. MS has made a deal with Square, I'm sure involving many millions of dollars, and they now have full support. I don't know why you guys refuse to believe the words coming out of his mouth.
"many more games to come", "full support", "ff Xi confirmed"....hmmm
FF is going multi-platform, that's just the way it is.
This thread has wandered off-topic, but I'll contribute anyway. 
I too think that MS has an opportunity to split the US market with Sony this time around. The Xbox brand has really gained momentum toward the end of the current generation, to the point where Xbox software sales are very competative with PS2 sales. If current dollars are being split 40/60, with the 360 launching early and if there are some really nice early games...
...who knows what might happen.
Personally, I'd love to see an even split. A three-way split with Nintendo included would be even better. Make everyone fight for their spots, I say.
I too think that MS has an opportunity to split the US market with Sony this time around. The Xbox brand has really gained momentum toward the end of the current generation, to the point where Xbox software sales are very competative with PS2 sales. If current dollars are being split 40/60, with the 360 launching early and if there are some really nice early games...
...who knows what might happen.
Personally, I'd love to see an even split. A three-way split with Nintendo included would be even better. Make everyone fight for their spots, I say.
scooby_dooby said:
FF sells in Japan just as much as it sells in US. Xbox has basically 0 momentum in Japan and I really don't think Xbox360 will do good in Japan either. Unless Xbox360 finds a way to sell well in Japan, I don't see FF going to Xbox360.
MS made what kind of deal with Square? Only thing Square announced was bringing FFXI and that is it...if there is more, i am sure there was some kind of announcement or something. what u are saying is complete assumption.
scooby_dooby
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Sorry, I think I was wrong about the FF sales in Japan.
Here's basically all we have on what happened between MS and SE:
"Moore is responsible for establishing industry-shaking alliances, such as with industry giant Square Enix and legendary developers Hironobu Sakaguchi (Mistwalker), Yoshiki Okamoto (Game Republic) and Tetsuya Mizuguchi (Q Entertainment)."
http://biz.gamedaily.com/features.asp?article_id=9676&filter=e3
Anyways, they've made a deal, SE didn't do the E3 conference because they were bored, and they commited to full support despite the lack of a large japanese audience. Money talks.
I read an article about MS paying around 50million dollars, but I've looked and loooked and cannot find it again,
Here's basically all we have on what happened between MS and SE:
"Moore is responsible for establishing industry-shaking alliances, such as with industry giant Square Enix and legendary developers Hironobu Sakaguchi (Mistwalker), Yoshiki Okamoto (Game Republic) and Tetsuya Mizuguchi (Q Entertainment)."
http://biz.gamedaily.com/features.asp?article_id=9676&filter=e3
Anyways, they've made a deal, SE didn't do the E3 conference because they were bored, and they commited to full support despite the lack of a large japanese audience. Money talks.
I read an article about MS paying around 50million dollars, but I've looked and loooked and cannot find it again,
scooby_dooby
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So tonight, I am very excited to be able to announce that Square Enix will join with Microsoft and Xbox to bring our games to Xbox 360 and Xbox Live. (Cheers, applause.)
We are deeply impressed by Xbox 360's outstanding features such as HD graphics, network connectivity and personalization. We are also impressed with Microsoft's deep insight into online gaming. So it is a great pleasure for us that the cross-platform concept of our PlayOnline will now be compatible with Xbox Live. Users of Xbox Live can now share with PC users the worlds we've created. This is something we've dreamed about in the past.
I'm also delighted to announce tonight that we'll bring Final Fantasy XI to Xbox 360. (Cheers, applause.)
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scooby_dooby said:
LOL, that quote could mean anything, Square might only bring their MMORPG to Xbox360. Beside that, having even one of SE's game to Xbox360 is good PR for microsoft in Japan, which is why Microsoft made it such a big deal, even though SE may not bring many games.
Sure, Square might bring other games as well, but I specifically meant FF series(FFXI and FF:CC don't count) and FF series has never been multi-platform(PC version doesn't count, and don't bring up about portable version remakes) and FF series is probably biggest seller in Japan along with DQ series and unless XBox360 makes big in Japan, I don't see it happening.
I tend to agree with you. I just can't see Sony letting a big money earner such as FF leave the PS3. If anything I can see SE bring in some new IP for the 360 platform that is a more drastic departure from the traditionall FF formulaic mold. I just can't believe that SE would be so willing to commit to a console that has yet to prove itself it doesn't make sense business wise... it's too much of a risk.
FF will apear on the x360 , its already slated for beta at launch of the x360.
More ff games will follow. I don't see why square wouldn't port or make exclusives for the second biggest system out there , esp if they feel there are options on the x360 that aren't there on the ps3 . Its more money for the m
More ff games will follow. I don't see why square wouldn't port or make exclusives for the second biggest system out there , esp if they feel there are options on the x360 that aren't there on the ps3 . Its more money for the m
jvd said:
Jeez....I said so many times..FF the single player game..I wouldn't put FFXI on the same level of importance with other FF titles.
FF series has always been one system exclusive and I think that is why FF game usually is notch over other games on the system on the same timeframe. If your argument is true, then ask Square why they did not port or make exclusives to Genesis, Saturn, N64, Xbox, or GC(Point of argument is main FF series, not spin off like FF:CC).
