Sony running out of PS3 dev kits
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From what you're saying, I'm beginning to see how they were able to keep things pretty much a secret pre-E3 
Maybe things will loosen up a little going forward?
Can anyone say if they restrict access to the kits to specific people? Is there a general NDA anyone the company needs to use a kit can sign, or do you have to go through SCE for each individual person?
Maybe things will loosen up a little going forward?
Can anyone say if they restrict access to the kits to specific people? Is there a general NDA anyone the company needs to use a kit can sign, or do you have to go through SCE for each individual person?
100 kits, 5 kits per dev - that's 20 games possible for launch. Plus if UE3 works devs can run that engine on PC and just throw out cross platform ports for their first gen PS3 games (EA anyone - okay, they're on Renderware...)
- okay, they're on Renderware...)Shifty Geezer said:100 kits, 5 kits per dev - that's 20 games possible for launch. Plus if UE3 works devs can run that engine on PC and just throw out cross platform ports for their first gen PS3 games (EA anyone
I doubt there is any dev external to sony who has 5.
Kolgar said:
If sony launched with crap in the usa they would be called on it and the gamers will go to the system that offered the better game play .
Brand name only takes you so far , you need the games to back it up . Sony launching with 1 or 2 decent games in spring with few games on the horizion with ms already on the market with decent , good and crappy games in force and big games like gow coming out will hurt sony badly . Sony needs to launch with big name games that are high quality
mckmas8808
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Yep you're right jvd it gets no simpler than that. A great launch system needs great launch games.
mckmas8808 said:
Yup
I'm thinking in nov of 06 sony can launch with a polished tekken , a mgs game , killzone a gta and sports .
Which will go well against
pdz , gow , halo 3 , doa , gta type games and elder scrolls
I don't really see many great games for the x360 after around march till fall as that is normaly a dead zone for game launches
I disagree with both of you.
Look at Dreamcast. Had a solid game lineup when PS2 launched. And arguably, the only memorable PS2 launch games were Madden, SSX, Tekken, and, erm, Ridge Racer.
And PS2 buried Dreamcast anyway. Why? Because gamers knew that PS2 would get the games eventually, even if it didn't have them on Day One.
Sony can do this again if they want.
Look at Dreamcast. Had a solid game lineup when PS2 launched. And arguably, the only memorable PS2 launch games were Madden, SSX, Tekken, and, erm, Ridge Racer.
And PS2 buried Dreamcast anyway. Why? Because gamers knew that PS2 would get the games eventually, even if it didn't have them on Day One.
Sony can do this again if they want.
scooby_dooby
Legend
Well that's your opinion.
I think comparing Sega and the dreamcast to MS and the 360 is like comparing a baby Black Bear to a full grown grizzly.
MS is not Sega, this is a whole different ball game.
I think comparing Sega and the dreamcast to MS and the 360 is like comparing a baby Black Bear to a full grown grizzly.
MS is not Sega, this is a whole different ball game.
Kolgar said:
Well lets see , sega was all but broke , had come off a slew of failures (sega cd , 32x , saturn ) had a small quanity of 3rd party support and got burried by 2 years of sony promises that never came true . Other than that the dc sold very well in those 2 years and was able to establish half the installed base as the xbox did .
With ms
They have most of the big developers on it , they have a massive amount of games (We should get over 40 in the launch window ) they have a very strong launch line up and continued support way into the time the ps3 launches .
Comparing ms to sega is very stupid . However I guess you can compare them to sega back in the day .
The xbox was like the master system. Took a very small percentage of market . But the genesis came back and took half the market share away from nintendo.
I can see the x360 being much more like the genesis than its like the dreamcast .
mckmas8808
Legend
I can see this being true, but just to a lesser extent. I don't think MS will get that close to Sony.
I don't know why some people are so sensitive about comparisons between Dreamcast and 360. There ARE similarities, such as the head start MS will enjoy. I haven't said they compare equally on all fronts, but for some reason, that's the conclusion so many jump to when anyone tries to draw any comparison at all.
Regardless, I stand by my opinion that Sony can launch PS3 with or without games, and people will buy it because they KNOW the games are coming.
Regardless, I stand by my opinion that Sony can launch PS3 with or without games, and people will buy it because they KNOW the games are coming.
scooby_dooby
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i'd be extremely surprised if 360 doesn't dominate the US market this time around.
The latest numbers I saw, from NDP, MS has 35% of this gen's market, with Sony having 39%. That's not installed base, but actual share of the dollars being spent on gaming in the US market in 2004.
With the huge marketing campaign that is inevitable, the x-mas launch as the only next gen console, lots of exclusives as well as support from pretty much every name in the game, I don't see how 360 doesn't take North America.
Especially with sony possibly losing rights to the GTA and FF franchises. I don't see how PS3 will be able to take the big lead away from 360. I mean those 2 franchises alone sold a TON of PS2's.
If 360 dominates north america, it will get the most dev support because NA sells the most everything and probably eventually follow suit in europe and other places. I'm sure PS3 will always rule in japan though, but who knows, MS seems to be doind alot to try and get japanese developers on board.
Everyone likes to talk about advantages and disadvantages but I think PS is losing the one advantage it's always had, the biggest advantage, games. This time it will be the system with less games, the 360 will have more games, a good 40-60 game headstart at least initially and who knows for how long. That's huge.
If they don't launch in NA in spring, which I really really can't see, then the gap widens even more, and it's is that much harder to catch up.
The latest numbers I saw, from NDP, MS has 35% of this gen's market, with Sony having 39%. That's not installed base, but actual share of the dollars being spent on gaming in the US market in 2004.
With the huge marketing campaign that is inevitable, the x-mas launch as the only next gen console, lots of exclusives as well as support from pretty much every name in the game, I don't see how 360 doesn't take North America.
Especially with sony possibly losing rights to the GTA and FF franchises. I don't see how PS3 will be able to take the big lead away from 360. I mean those 2 franchises alone sold a TON of PS2's.
If 360 dominates north america, it will get the most dev support because NA sells the most everything and probably eventually follow suit in europe and other places. I'm sure PS3 will always rule in japan though, but who knows, MS seems to be doind alot to try and get japanese developers on board.
Everyone likes to talk about advantages and disadvantages but I think PS is losing the one advantage it's always had, the biggest advantage, games. This time it will be the system with less games, the 360 will have more games, a good 40-60 game headstart at least initially and who knows for how long. That's huge.
If they don't launch in NA in spring, which I really really can't see, then the gap widens even more, and it's is that much harder to catch up.
