Sonys problems profits not sales. They have bigger Electronics revenues than Samsung and Apple just not the profits.
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Sonys problems profits not sales. They have bigger Electronics revenues than Samsung and Apple just not the profits.
Could be. If you can secure a developer who's games always sell well, you'll get more profit from them as a first party.
Sony is going to miss the holiday season in the US and EU with respect to the Vita.
Ehmm so discount wares that sell high numbers and make great money has brand value.
If the op claims that the brand lost value it would be nice to have something to back it up.
The value of the brand can still be high if for example people pick the brand x over brand y even at the same price.
I'm really not sure how you come to that but I'd say the ability to make money is brand value, but Sony margins certainly aren't what they were 10 years ago.
He does. Waning margins, bravia tvs losing money for 8 years in a row, little clues like that.
It would be nice if you had something to back that up. (ie. I'm uncertain that people would pick Sony over an equally priced Samsung atm)
Did Nintendo pull a MS with the 3DS?. Everything points to that. The Xbox360, Wii, 3DS initial stratagems were about outmanouvering the lumbering Electronics behemoth. Apple Samsung etc do it for fun.
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Rumor mill:
Someone's laser TV & oled competitors?
http://www.photonics.com/Article.aspx?AID=47934http://www.photonics.com/Article.aspx?AID=47934
With Quantum dot supposed to outclass OLED...
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13023-quantumdot-displays-could-outshine-their-rivals.html
I'd love a Qdot TMOS TV , even if it's Rambus
Someone's laser TV & oled competitors?
http://www.photonics.com/Article.aspx?AID=47934http://www.photonics.com/Article.aspx?AID=47934
With Quantum dot supposed to outclass OLED...
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13023-quantumdot-displays-could-outshine-their-rivals.html
I'd love a Qdot TMOS TV , even if it's Rambus
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If a display technology is decent to begin with (laser beam steering, CRT alikes, DLP , TMOS ) , it can be "bootstrapped" with Quantum Dot. Later it should be also possible to "grow" the Quantum Dot display by itself, nanotech is that incredible.
http://www.labspaces.net/112366/One_box_of_Girl_Scout_Cookies_worth_____billion
the 3 year away Q-dot forecast is way off IMO?
http://www.labspaces.net/112366/One_box_of_Girl_Scout_Cookies_worth_____billion
the 3 year away Q-dot forecast is way off IMO?
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Often times that sort of scenario isn't put in front of the consumer. And also Sony will sell a Xbr for 600 more and the cheaper alternatives are producing deeper blacks, more accurate color, more internet services, 3d glasses, etc. Crazy stuff. They've just gotten themselves together with the top of line HX series, but you'll need to drop 3k on it. But anyway market share, capital, etc. We know companies like Vizio and Samsung own the market in the US. Definitely getting some traction with consumers in contrast with Sony who's currently struggling.
Yet more firefighting by Stringer, Hirai. Have they been asleep the last 6 years?. We're in a critical moment in regards the mobile space ie ipad, iphone etc, Sony need a BIG mobile product as a base. Vita to $200 or below and Stringer should call off his latest inconsequential music company purchase. That Stringer's/Hirai's Sony's Chairman is frightening for Sony imo.
"And the brand is weak so the premium price doesn't fly with consumers." I know you have a problem with the Sony brand so of course you would go out of your way to take another piss on it.
But i fail to see how fierce competition, strong yen and lots of other factors that easily can be added up to a "weak brand". And yes, people still choose Sony over competing brands, just because it´s a Sony and they are used to Sony providing quality for the money
Do you have any evidence to back that up? Because what I see in stores is Sony priced about the same as Samsung and Samsung selling 50% more units (based on TV market share). Obviously it's not nearly that simple, but I don't see how Sony as a brand has any premium over their competition.
You are backing up the argument that the Sony brand lost value, so of course you could try and find something to back up your argument.
Note, i am not saying it did not loose value, i don´t know, i just have an issue with the wording "weak brand", especially on the "internets" where there is a strong tendency to make outrages claims against whatever that person hate with out any backup whatsoever...
As for Samsung, i personally think they make a lot of crap as well as some real jewels like the Galaxy S2 and some of their TV´s. For me their brand does not guarantee "quality" but fair price for what you get but you don´t really know what you get
wouldn't decreased sales equate a loss of brand quality ?
Obviously at one point people were willing to buy sony even costing extra , now they aren't buying sony even when priced the same as other companys.
My father used to swear by Sony when I was younger , but having multiple bad sony tvs , dvd players and just recently a bluray player he has now started looking at other brands.
Obviously at one point people were willing to buy sony even costing extra , now they aren't buying sony even when priced the same as other companys.
My father used to swear by Sony when I was younger , but having multiple bad sony tvs , dvd players and just recently a bluray player he has now started looking at other brands.
It can be a factor in Brand value and Brand quality, but as i mentioned earlier, Sony is in a different TV market with flat panel TV´s then they were with CRT. They have a strong Yen and fierce competition so why shouldn´t they suffer from all those factors? I was suggesting that the Brand value might have been and still is a factor that reduce the damage from all those factors.
For your father it´s sony, for me it´s denon with no emperical evidence except money wasted
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