Sony Home - The official thread*

Ok guys help me out here.
I hate Home. With a vengeance. I just think it serves no purpose whatsoever. You can't do anything more than watching old low-res trailers, walk around and see stupid kids talking about cr4p or being abusive to each other, play a few silly games which i don't want to play. And it's slow.
Am i missing something??

The people who like home go there to chat (aimlessly). Some go for the collectibles. The Home theater will show exclusive footages/episodes occasionally. IMHO, the Japan Home has the most interesting spaces, the US Home probably has the most number of spaces, the EU Home... haven't visited there. :p

I used to check out the parties and gatherings (e.g., Q&A with the Sony community managers). The Home mini-games are mostly simple and arcadey. The Sodium space is the first one with more in-depth mini-game. The Xi space was the first one with ARG games. The EA Sports Complex has a free multiplayer poker game.
 
Okay, london-boy, just to give you a better sense of Home. Here's a typical Home content update:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010...y-apartment-playstation-blog-meetup-and-more/

We usually have virtual (animated) clothes associated with PS3 games, decor, mini-games and videos. Among these freebies and micro-payment items, the mini-games get the most focus. As you may have noticed, the games here are fillers. But the recent mini-games are more and more like full fledged, alternate PSN games (i.e., You need to pay).

e.g., Musicality looks interesting to me:

Home used to tout user generated content. For the most part it means chatting and virtual partying in Home, and nothing else. This is my misgivings about Home (right after the UI issues). I think Home gets used when people are bored, and they don't know what to do yet. They may want to take a break from long games. I entered Home mostly, as you said, to find out what I can do in say 5-10 minutes. That's why I think Sony should continue to improve load time.

If you pay enough attention, you should be able to find good chatting buddies. They are there to relax/waste time too. I have met very sensible people of all ages there. If you tune your language, it is possible to hold long and meaty conversations.

There are some hardcore Home supporters. They may have Home websites. They also meet up in Home rather frequently. Apparently, Sony is trying to get their help now:
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2010...ecome-a-playstation-home-community-volunteer/
Home also has its own stable of developers. They create Home spaces, mini-games and virtual items for sale. You should be able to find them here: http://www.alphazone4.com/

Finally, you can form a game party and launch games from inside Home. Home savvy games will recognize your party members, and allow you to enter the games right away (using the party settings you configure inside Home). Non-savvy games will simply allow you to go to the startup screen (from Home). Once you quit the game, you're returned back to Home.
 
AlphaZone, a Home fansite, is celebrating their anniversary:
http://www.alphazone4.com/2010/03/alphazone4-is-1-year-old-win-some-goodies

If you would like to join us in celebrating our anniversary, we’ll be hosting a quiz tonight in the AlphaZone4 clubhouse. We have some cool random prizes to give out tonight, including a copy of EyePet with a PlayStation Eye camera (all ready for the PlayStation Move), a LittleBigPlanet 6″ figure and more!

Quiz will be in the “AlphaZone4″ clubhouse at 20:00 GMT, Tuesday 23rd March – any region is invited, I will be happy to post prizes to almost anywhere. Good luck and hope to see you there! Keyboards recommended for the question-based rounds, but there will be other games too. Please send join requests *only* after 19:30 GMT – if you’re already a member of the club, you will be removed beforehand, so please re-send your membership request.
 
Sony cancelled Room (The PSP social networking platform in Japan):
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/04/15/room_psp_cancelled/


Good move to streamline or consolidate, although it looks more interesting than PS Home. Wonder if they can steal some ideas and implementation there.


PS Home also getting more in-game support:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010...island-space-items-and-gamers-lounge-refresh/

Tomorrow, April 15th, we take the next step in the evolution of the platform with the release of the SOCOM OPFOR game space, which will allow fans of the franchise to assemble an assault weapon in a PlayStation Home mini-game and then load out into SOCOM: Confrontation with a fully-playable Golden AK-47 – an exclusive weapon only available to the most skilled players who can successfully complete the aforementioned mini-game in 12 seconds or less.

A small step in the right direction. Hope to see Home extending the MP aspect of PSN and Blu-ray games. IMHO, "standalone" mini-experiences like above are not as interesting as roping in the entire Home community (e.g. betting, trophy match, etc.).
 
How many games support MP invitations through Home? Do we have a list available?

Thats something I was wondering about for some time and I expected it to be some kind of answer to Live's "seamless" MP invitations
 
Wiki has a list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Home#Game_Launching

I don't know how up-to-date it is:

Currently, games that fully support game launching are Warhawk, Resident Evil 5/Biohazard 5, Everybody's Golf: World Tour/Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds/Minna no Golf 5, Namco Museum.comm/Essentials (Asia & Japan), Minna de Spelunker (Asia & Japan), Catan (Japan), Street Fighter IV, Resistance 2, Crash Commando, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift, Far Cry 2, Buzz!: Quiz TV, Buzz!: Quiz World, the Lost Planet 2 Co-op demo, Tekken 6, LittleBigPlanet, and Hustle Kings.
 
Wiki has a list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Home#Game_Launching

I don't know how up-to-date it is:

Something I noticed in your link:

"Simplified Game Launching", also known as Universal Game Launching, was implemented with Core Client update v1.30. With simplified game launching, users simply insert a game into their PS3 while in Home and follow the on screen directions. Users have a limited number of options to select with simplified game launching. For instance, they cannot choose what map or level they want and what settings for the map or level within Home, they must do that after the game has been launched. The name of the game and how many users have joined the session is also shown under the users' names above their avatar's head. This allows any PS3 game to be launched from Home.[34]

So according to this, any game supports invitations (albeit with limited options) through home???
 
No, that's just standard game launching, like the way you start a game from XMB.

Playstation Home's game launching is an external party system for an online game.
 
Yeah. When a game supports game launching from Home, as in the list on Wiki, this will allow you to set up your game while still in Home. The available options differ per game - some allow you to configure your whole online game directly from within Home (your map and game settings, how many friend slots to reserve etc.) and others just allow you to specify how many people (though typically always an option to reserve spots for friends) and then you'll launch into the game's own online party.

The universal game launching that Home supports just does the following:

- you can select any game from your HDD or bluray from within your Home menu
- you can start the game from within Home
- your Home status (message over your avatar's head) will update to show that you are playing this game
- when you quit the game you will return into Home automatically

The big win here basically is that if you are with friends, and you want to go play a game together then even if it does not natively support game launching, you can still chat together (say from your private space or clubhouse, but also anywhere else), decide to go into a game together, and when you return from the game you're back in the same Home instance, so you don't have to go and find each other again.

If I had more regular friends I game with, then I'd definitely use this more often.
 
CydoniaX is organizing an E3 event for Home. She's asking for free gift ideas:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/...6;jsessionid=C19AA9122CBFBAEB2DF11FE26E295984

Hi everyone,

So as you all know, E3 is coming up in June and is a huge event for the gaming industry and it's a big deal for PlayStation Home as well. Those of you who were with us last year may recall that we gave away "There's No Place Like Home" t-shirts in about 10 different colors and you had to be in Home to get them all! We also showed videos from E3 in Home with actual interviews with the PS Blog staff and industry professionals LIVE at E3!

Exciting stuff....well, this year we have even more in store for you. We want to do something similar with collectible rewards like last year's t-shirts. We have several different ideas but want YOUR input on what you'd find most appealing....without revealing all the aces up our sleeves yet, of course.

So! Here's a list of options, and please let us know a. which you like best and b. if you can think of even better ones! Keep in mind, if your ideas are super out-there or complicated, we may not be able to do them but thinking BLUE SKY never hurts!

1. T-shirts again! There would be 6 in total, and they would spell out something like "E3 2010." If you collect them all, you can get your friends together to stand in a row and spell it out. Mad props! Alternatively these shirts could have the E3 and/or Home logos and be different colors (similar to last year's idea).

2. Cubes! Collectable furniture items. Think multi-colored or changing colors, with E3/Home logso to show where you got them. You can stack them in your personal space, make simulated pixel art out of them (ex: http://craziestgadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/pinky_flopp
y_disks-425x500.jpg), and basically have something cool and different for your apartments.

3. Collectable ornaments....these could be statues of Home staff (haha), tchotkes, you name it. Something you can display proudly on a shelf in your home within Home.

4. PSN-themed furniture/decor. Rugs, furniture, wall hangings with PS3, PSN, and the famous circle, square, triangle, cross controller buttons on them. Display your Sony/PSN-fandom with pride!

We're trying to think of things we HAVEN'T given away yet. And we would love to get your feedback. If you don't like any of these ideas, that's fine, but I want to hear about what you DO like!

Standing by,

CydoniaX


My reply:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/...onid=0D365CA109214FAC27D756C8EE01526F#M937327

Don't fall in love too much with the virtual world.

If you want to attract new comers, use real world gifts like the official headset, PS Eye, keypad, iPod, or even iPad as gifts. But reward the loyal users or users who help build the community, so you don't get the cheap new players who come just for the gifts.

You can also tie the gifting to purchases in Home or developer parters' games. There should be an option for people who choose not to buy, but they will need to do some free work for Home. ;-) This should sidestep some pesky California regulations.


Now, don't say I didn't help Sony keep the online gaming free.
 
How to save Home from being a failure:

You turn on your PS3, log in to your profile and instead of your dynamic theme, you see your default Home apartment space with you sitting on the couch, with the XMB overlaid like it is today. You press the PS button and the XMB goes away, and you now have full control over your virtual self. You can check out your trophies rendered in 3D, contact your friends, go to clubhouses for some partying up, including voice chat of course. Or you won't bother with any of this, hit the PS button and the familiar XMB is at your service again.

This is what I think home should be, and your apartment(s) could change based on either paying for them or unlocking them in the game as you level up with your trophies.

Home should be the default application that runs when you boot the PS3 imho, not having it available during gameplay is understandable due to memory/cpu requirements, where XMB will do just fine.
 
How to save Home from being a failure:

You turn on your PS3, log in to your profile and instead of your dynamic theme, you see your default Home apartment space with you sitting on the couch, with the XMB overlaid like it is today. You press the PS button and the XMB goes away, and you now have full control over your virtual self. You can check out your trophies rendered in 3D, contact your friends, go to clubhouses for some partying up, including voice chat of course. Or you won't bother with any of this, hit the PS button and the familiar XMB is at your service again.

This is what I think home should be, and your apartment(s) could change based on either paying for them or unlocking them in the game as you level up with your trophies.

Home should be the default application that runs when you boot the PS3 imho, not having it available during gameplay is understandable due to memory/cpu requirements, where XMB will do just fine.
Yeah I was thinking about something similar but slightly differently executed

The PS3 already has very features that seem detached from the whole PS experience.

Examples are Life with PS and Home.

What I had in mind where various versions of XMB

For example:

a) classic XMB (the one we have now)

b) HOME XMB

c) Life with Playstation XMB

The user may have the option to choose which XMB he would like his PS3 to enter when it boots up.

Each XMB could maintain some of the basic features of the classic XMB but it will present functions/features related to Home or Life With Playstation.

For example Home XMB may have your apartment and avatar in the background and in the friends list it could name which are currently in Home, and you could be introduced to Home related news in a better formed information bar designed specifically for Home

A Life With Playstation could have your Folding and Earth in the background and have information bars related to major news. Features like news broadcasts and features similar to Google Earth's information on Environment, culture, aerial pictures etc would be brilliant if presented in a XMB fashion (ie Environment icon, Culture Icon, News Icon etc). Google earth would have been nice too

At their current form people forget their existence in the XMB and are not reminded of their evolution or their usefulness

I hope someone who works at Sony sees this and makes a proposal.

MS already took into consideration this and they are all incorporated and run in NXE. Thus you get your Avatar, Marketplace and all the features in one place without having to get out from NXE and enter an application.

Sony needs something similar to the above proposal to make the experience just as seamless
 
Wherever Home wants to go, it will need to improve the load speed and user experience first.

Then they can talk about vertical integration with other games and movies.
 
Wherever Home wants to go, it will need to improve the load speed and user experience first.

Then they can talk about vertical integration with other games and movies.

They can do that by including an XMB version of Home with "shortcuts" to various Home functions while at the same time it will make the access to Home continuous and faster.

Currently it is not. I have to choose a different application that feels separated from everything else and it takes time. Home should feel like an experience integrated with PS, not like a separate platform
 
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