Sony delay PS3 until November
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oh boy... the "I told ya so!" police are gonna be on patrol in a serious way now... Still everyone knew the "spring" idea was always out the window.
I wonder if this is just an estimate on when they think the security is settled? or will Sony even commit to a specific release date at E3 such as 11/11/2006 or somethign like that. time will tell.
I wonder if this is just an estimate on when they think the security is settled? or will Sony even commit to a specific release date at E3 such as 11/11/2006 or somethign like that. time will tell.
Boy, that's more than unexpected. It didn't think that the Japan launch would be pushed back to November. Yikes! It probably won't launch in Europe until early summer. Now, Sony may be the last console to arrive this gen.
By the time Sony launches MS should have shipped over 8million consoles according to their projections, if am correct. Though Sony is highly lilkely to take the crown again, next-gen will be a lot closer.
By the time Sony launches MS should have shipped over 8million consoles according to their projections, if am correct. Though Sony is highly lilkely to take the crown again, next-gen will be a lot closer.
expletive said:
Sorry, you're correct. Not sure why this news would be hitting just now, but there ya go.
BR could be just a scapegoat, but I'd wonder the same thing, if copy protection issues alone could cause this.
Qroach said:
They may commit to a date later today, at their briefing. This report is already as specific as "early November".
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Well at least the launch games should be pretty deadly with such a long time with near-final devkits.
http://www.mainichi-msn.co.jp/today/news/20060315k0000m020147000c.htmlexpletive said:How about some linkage?
This Mainichi Shimbun article says, according to an industry source, as the mass production was delayed due to the delay of the standardization of the copy protection technology of BD, if PS3 is released in Spring they will be able to offer only 500k units that is far lower than 2.5 million the industry expected, so they decided to delay it.
Well, if this story gains any momentum, I imagine that Kutaragi will have no choice but to address it tomorrow at the conference (of course maybe not), so at least the 'official' response should be quick in coming.
@Xenus: Maybe they would respin for 65nm were the date moved to November. Anyone know the status of the Nagasaki 65nm setup? I mean, not that it means much to us the consumer either way unless they go with a clock boost along with it.
I hope the whole project hasn't been delayed to November though, though I guess it would just effect me indirectly, since I was expecting ~November for US anyway.
BD man, very much a mixed bag... but I do believe that it behooves Sony to put it in these consoles, so I guess they just have to grit their teeth. I wouldn't expect it to hold up the entirety of the Blu-ray launch though; they've already come out quite recently with May for that.
@Xenus: Maybe they would respin for 65nm were the date moved to November. Anyone know the status of the Nagasaki 65nm setup? I mean, not that it means much to us the consumer either way unless they go with a clock boost along with it.
I hope the whole project hasn't been delayed to November though, though I guess it would just effect me indirectly, since I was expecting ~November for US anyway.
BD man, very much a mixed bag... but I do believe that it behooves Sony to put it in these consoles, so I guess they just have to grit their teeth. I wouldn't expect it to hold up the entirety of the Blu-ray launch though; they've already come out quite recently with May for that.
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Presumably this would be November in Japan only. I hope not though...
It is obvious what Sony has to do, but won't. If Blu-ray is really what is holding this up, they HAVE to cut it off. They can probably still "win" missing two straight holidays, but it will be far too close to comfort, and they could really start to bleed exclusives considering it might not be out for a year to a year and a half in the two major regions. This is borderline suicidal for the company as a whole considering how important the division is to the health of the company.
I just can't help but feel this isn't blu-ray only. Do we have any word on an official delay of the stand alone units? Much less so far out?
Or, what would probably be best, simply launch in the U.S. in Novermber, and wait on Japan. This is even less likely but would make the most sense, especially with regard to potential supply problems.
It is obvious what Sony has to do, but won't. If Blu-ray is really what is holding this up, they HAVE to cut it off. They can probably still "win" missing two straight holidays, but it will be far too close to comfort, and they could really start to bleed exclusives considering it might not be out for a year to a year and a half in the two major regions. This is borderline suicidal for the company as a whole considering how important the division is to the health of the company.
I just can't help but feel this isn't blu-ray only. Do we have any word on an official delay of the stand alone units? Much less so far out?
Or, what would probably be best, simply launch in the U.S. in Novermber, and wait on Japan. This is even less likely but would make the most sense, especially with regard to potential supply problems.
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There are a million conspiracy theories one can come up with concerning the launch window of the PS3 in relation to Blu-Ray. Here are just a few thoughts.
Unless I've completely missed something all of the copy-protection concerns are purely software based, having nothing to do with the hardware or even the Blu-Ray drive itself.
So, one could say:
A) There is some hardware issue that is delaying launch and Blu-Ray copy protection is being used as a red herring to cover up that fact. However, last word from IBM was that Cell yields were surprisingly good, and we haven't really heard anything about RSX being a pain, so the only thing that actually leaves is the physical drive itself, which would be an odd choice for a hardware problem.
B) It actually is simply a matter of finalizing the Blu-Ray copy protection, in which case there is no hardware issue, and the fact that its delayed until November means they have much longer to build up hardware before the software system is complete. This could facilitate a multi-region launch come November.
However, when were the stand-alone Blu-Ray players supposed to be available at retail? I thought the timeframe for them was earlier than November as well, which may lend credence to the hardware issue scapegoating theory. Then again, if they say "copy protection" do they mean AAC or BD+ (or whatever that Blu-Ray specific protection layer was), because if its the former that should be affecting HD-DVD's ability to come to market when they claim as well.
Unless I've completely missed something all of the copy-protection concerns are purely software based, having nothing to do with the hardware or even the Blu-Ray drive itself.
So, one could say:
A) There is some hardware issue that is delaying launch and Blu-Ray copy protection is being used as a red herring to cover up that fact. However, last word from IBM was that Cell yields were surprisingly good, and we haven't really heard anything about RSX being a pain, so the only thing that actually leaves is the physical drive itself, which would be an odd choice for a hardware problem.
B) It actually is simply a matter of finalizing the Blu-Ray copy protection, in which case there is no hardware issue, and the fact that its delayed until November means they have much longer to build up hardware before the software system is complete. This could facilitate a multi-region launch come November.
However, when were the stand-alone Blu-Ray players supposed to be available at retail? I thought the timeframe for them was earlier than November as well, which may lend credence to the hardware issue scapegoating theory. Then again, if they say "copy protection" do they mean AAC or BD+ (or whatever that Blu-Ray specific protection layer was), because if its the former that should be affecting HD-DVD's ability to come to market when they claim as well.
Titanio said:For those doubting how "official" that is, journalists apparently right now have information relating to the briefing later on, that's under NDA. Not even just in Japan, but elsewhere. So I guess somebody broke their NDA and leaked a little
Well, if that's the case, I guess tomorrow is set to be a more interesting event than previously theorized.
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