[social] question for those of you who went to college...
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arjan de lumens
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High intelligence has a tendency to make school situation (lower than college/university level) feel extremely slow, boring, unchallenging etc; in some countries, school systems contain adaptations for such people, such as the Advanced Placement classes common in the USA; in countries where such adaptations are not available (such as my home country NorwayMuFu said:
), high intelligence is a surprisingly good predictor for behavioral problems.Also, there is a rather widespread problem that highly intelligent people often end up spending much effort on pretending to be much less intelligent than they actually are, in order not to be constantly confronted with the various faces of anti-intellectualism that are present in many places.
Lysander said:Groups are not important, you should appreciate individual people. Show them some interest in them, exchange ideas, be flirtatious with girls
...and if you lack self confidence then: pump some iron, dude .
believe me I have no issues with self-confidence and have absolutely no troubble talking to girls or asking them out. that's not the issue that I'm experiencing here at all.
Kanyamagufa
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Maybe I'm not seeing things clearly...
I think you may be blowing this out of proportion. There's nothing you need to learn to go to a bar or club. It's really not much different than hanging out with your friends, you're just in a specific place.
You may just be thinking about this to much.
I think you may be blowing this out of proportion. There's nothing you need to learn to go to a bar or club. It's really not much different than hanging out with your friends, you're just in a specific place.
You may just be thinking about this to much.
Sage said:
No, that's just your female friends being nice and trying to pump up your limp and oh-so-annoying whiny ass into some resemblance of a real man.
arjan de lumens said:High intelligence has a tendency to make school situation (lower than college/university level) feel extremely slow, boring, unchallenging etc; in some countries, school systems contain adaptations for such people, such as the Advanced Placement classes common in the USA; in countries where such adaptations are not available (such as my home country Norway
Also, there is a rather widespread problem that highly intelligent people often end up spending much effort on pretending to be much less intelligent than they actually are, in order not to be constantly confronted with the various faces of anti-intellectualism that are present in many places.
Sage just mentioning it really strikes a nerve because I know it's precisely thoughts like that which fucked me up. Of course there are many, exceptionally intelligent people who seem to be inherently sociopathic, but there many more "smart alecs" who concoct their own downfall through a mixture of arrogance and laziness.
The "get a life" approach is so much more effective, IMHO.
MuFu said:Sage just mentioning it really strikes a nerve because I know it's precisely thoughts like that which fucked me up. Of course there are many, exceptionally intelligent people who seem to be inherently sociopathic, but there many more "smart alecs" who concoct their own downfall through a mixture of arrogance and laziness.
The "get a life" approach is so much more effective, IMHO.
well it's more like the average person (even the average person in college) see's things so drastically differently and at times it can be very difficult to communicate while other times you have to "dumb down" in order to communicate on their level and it's really a very intellectually painful thing to do
bars and discothecs:
just pay the entrance fee, go in there, maybe buy a drink, and watch other people dance.
--->60 % of the girls dont "dance", as do 85 % of the men.
so... you can just stand in there, move a little bit and thus vanish amidst the 85 percent.
now, if you like the music and maybe really be able to have fun dancing, maybe even looking good doing it. --> big advantage in having a fun evening.
but generely you stay in the 85 percent.
in the turn of the evening people get drunk and the whole atmosphere gets better.
--> maybe the you are under the 50 % who are drunk and happy.
big advantage for an enjoyable evening: going with friends, laughing at and with each other.
if you went alone... try to socialice normaly (difficult) or to pick up some girl/s (easyer).
hmmmmmmmmmmm.... that coming from someone whe seldomly enjoys clubs if no mood enhancer food and beverage is prescribed.
so.... some people just take some pills... in or before the club.. then feel happy and enjoy the music.
so... try going with some friends.
if you go alone, maybe you will have to try different clubs to find one that you can enjoy.
different people go to different clubs. different music styles.
example.... hip hop is a big turnoff for me. and i mostly have hard time having fun with people who do like hiphop. yeah yeah i know.. generalisation/prejudges are bad... just experience.
so.. if you find a club that plays "your" music than thats very good.
ps: my music taste goes under alternative-(rock/industrial/electro/goth) ....so... yeah... not every club is for me. (alternative is a big word... so... generally what i like my friends dont.... so i guess the term is correct).
please post if you have succes at having fun going out.
just pay the entrance fee, go in there, maybe buy a drink, and watch other people dance.
--->60 % of the girls dont "dance", as do 85 % of the men.
so... you can just stand in there, move a little bit and thus vanish amidst the 85 percent.
now, if you like the music and maybe really be able to have fun dancing, maybe even looking good doing it. --> big advantage in having a fun evening.
but generely you stay in the 85 percent.
in the turn of the evening people get drunk and the whole atmosphere gets better.
--> maybe the you are under the 50 % who are drunk and happy.
big advantage for an enjoyable evening: going with friends, laughing at and with each other.
if you went alone... try to socialice normaly (difficult) or to pick up some girl/s (easyer).
hmmmmmmmmmmm.... that coming from someone whe seldomly enjoys clubs if no mood enhancer food and beverage is prescribed.
so.... some people just take some pills... in or before the club.. then feel happy and enjoy the music.
so... try going with some friends.
if you go alone, maybe you will have to try different clubs to find one that you can enjoy.
different people go to different clubs. different music styles.
example.... hip hop is a big turnoff for me. and i mostly have hard time having fun with people who do like hiphop. yeah yeah i know.. generalisation/prejudges are bad... just experience.
so.. if you find a club that plays "your" music than thats very good.
ps: my music taste goes under alternative-(rock/industrial/electro/goth) ....so... yeah... not every club is for me. (alternative is a big word... so... generally what i like my friends dont.... so i guess the term is correct).
please post if you have succes at having fun going out.
booomups said:
awesome... but how are the above two things supposed to work in this sort of atmosphere? what are the differences between this atmosphere and other places.
also, what adaptations would someone who neither drinks nor takes pills / smokes have to make?
what kind of things do I have to watch out for / not do?
thanks, you've been a great help thus far!
c'est moi!
(looking really cracked out but it's just because of 4 hard days of alllll studying, you also can't really see the colour of my eyes which are sort of a blue>green>hazel gradient, I get compliments a lot... same for my teeth but because they are pearly white, I've actually had people tell me they looked to smooth they have the strange urge to lick them to find out what they feel like)
(looking really cracked out but it's just because of 4 hard days of alllll studying, you also can't really see the colour of my eyes which are sort of a blue>green>hazel gradient, I get compliments a lot... same for my teeth but because they are pearly white, I've actually had people tell me they looked to smooth they have the strange urge to lick them to find out what they feel like)
I thought you said you were physically attrative?Sage said:c'est moi!
(looking really cracked out but it's just because of 4 hard days of alllll studying, you also can't really see the colour of my eyes which are sort of a blue>green>hazel gradient, I get compliments a lot... same for my teeth but because they are pearly white, I've actually had people tell me they looked to smooth they have the strange urge to lick them to find out what they feel like)
To who exactly...
Sage said:
None. Don't drink or take pills, that's it. If someone pushes you to, refuse politely.
Don't try to seduce the girl accompanied by the 6 feet tall bad-ass biker and such things
Clubs and bars are just places like anywhere else except for the percentage of drunk people, so use your common sense and you'll be fine.
This is not true at all. Perhaps if your goal is to get into a girls pants as quickly as possible you would have a point. There are many intelligent women as well who are not scared in any way by intelligent and logical conversation._xxx_ said:
Sage you need to live you life as who you are, and quit trying to be someone you are not. Like was said earlier, if you don't like who you happen to be fine change, otherwise get over it. Not every person needs to fit into the same mold and behave the same way individuals are allowed to do as they please.
And next time don't post a picture that makes you look like part of the adam's family or some kind of nocrophiliac.
No whatever, but it was a pretty terrible picture.
