Only Metal Gear? Could you tell me a friends of yours who played a videogame sometime, if they know about Bomberman? Most likely 100% of your friends know or have played Bomberman.
If people are buying games on MS's software platform they won't care. Ultimately if people buy PCs to play UWP games, saving MS the effort of maintaining hardware, that's a win for them. Until then, they want a 'trojan horse' to help grow Windows Store. That'd be a console. If that same console let's people run Windows and other game services, it'd completely defeat the point. Instead of buying a console, buying games over Windows Store (or UWP games on XBox Store), and building up a library that encourages them to buy a Windows PC instead of a Mac and a Windows phone instead of iPhone or Android, people would buy the hardware and source the software cheap from Steam and GOG, reducing MS's profits and failing to grow their ecosystem.
Yes, Bomberman is fairly well known, but it also released on other devices than MSX. Wiki suggests it was the NES that made it popular.
Never heard of them.
The MSX predated PlayStation by over a decade. Sony offered their own MSX model, the Sony HB-F1XDJ, which only sold in Japan.
R-Type was an arcade game and Aleste was released on SEGA Maser System game before it hit MSX. Let's not rewrite history.
they've already said that both x1 & Scorpio will support full uwp games by end of year.
UWP needs to be a huge success to keep windows relevant in that sense and relied on. So there's a good chance Microsoft may go to really push all of Windows features into the home, outperforming and out functioning other devices. I guess there is something more than a console war riding on this, and in fact it's never been that, if we take into account why Xbox was created in the first place.
Your theory sounds reasonable, business wise.... it could also go in circles. The console market is unpredictable. Switch is breaking all records left and right...Nintendo use their imagination very well, although it's not super uber revolutionary, it is a tad better than similar devices.
That means squat, I'm afraid (even if true. Left and right?). Long term sales are what's important. Interestingly, if Switch played Steam games it'd probably sell many, many more. And/or played Android games. But then Nintendo would lose software sells...
The more options for alternative software services on your platform, the less chance you have of selling your own stuff. Would you rather have an install base of 100 million with 10% using your shop, or 20 million with 100% using your shop? There are few good reasons for people to use Windows Store. A console releasing with the current style Store and access to GOG, Steam, etc., is going to sell practically no software from the Store AFAICS. If the reasons to use Windows Store are that compelling on Scorpio that everyone wants to use it instead of GOG and Steam, then people would be doing that now on PC, no?
). I guess the piracy or unlicensed (to them) games, stores, applications wouldn't be a big deal then. The desktop and laptop OEMs would not appreciate the competition. MS would endanger its position by pissing off the Dells, Acers and Lenovos (/edit : as you said Jay on the first page). But as it was already said, the slow CPU is impractical. You'd get high end PC games running at a smooth 20 fps no matter the resolution.
That's good to know, and I am quite surprised, just to an extent... because making some revisionism you are in for a few surprises. Britain's nascent computer industry at the time had some other devices like the Sinclair..., afaik I think a cousin of mine from the place where Manchester United played tonight, had one, iirc --that or it was a Spectrum.. but I remember seeing one of those when my parents visited my uncle and aunt, it wanst in a working state but the black mate colour and the keyboard looked very cool to anyone.The MSX predated PlayStation by over a decade. Sony offered their own MSX model, the Sony HB-F1XDJ, which only sold in Japan.
R-Type was an arcade game and Aleste was released on SEGA Maser System game before it hit MSX. Let's not rewrite history.
It is aimed at students, that's what I've heard. Maybe that's the W10 version that is likely to be in Scorpio, if any? Shifty's theory would make sense then.
Theoretically If I weren't morbidly curious about Scorpio and some of the hints at its design -like the green and blue stripes as in Play Anywhere- those thoughts of it being a Windows machine wouldn't be there, but Steam wanted to show the path to go with their steam machines, just like they did with their store, which is an example for many (I very much like GoG, and kinda prefer it though).
This I highly doubt, but it's still up in the air.
this post is Wikipedia worthy. Some of the devices you talk about are very specific models that you remember and it surprises me. the fact that some of them are evoking MSX in some way makes you think that the era was so device rich that it was complicated to reign.I am thinking of the Amiga CD 32 here. It would have ended in rampant piracy, once CD-R got available and affordable.. or even much earlier, if adding a floppy drive.
You can even burn a CD with one hundred Amiga 500 games if you like.
So, there was a computer-as-a-console which wasn't quite locked down. It also seemed to come with previous-gen games!, even though there's no console version of the previous gen : repackaged Amiga 500 games with a CD Audio soundtrack were a cheap and easy way to release something, although the console has Amiga 1200 hardware which is more advanced (games for the A1200 aren't well-known anyway)
But had it been not bogged down in a patent lawsuit which also bankrupted and killed off Commodore for good, I am sure it would have been a popular and classic console, with a good few years where CD piracy wasn't too big a concern. Perhaps a couple millions to fight off the bogus lawsuit would have been enough, esp. if the lawyering had managed for the console not suffering a quite literal naval blockade. Of course by then Commodore had wasted way too much money and engineering on useless computers like the Commodore 16 and Plus 4 in the 80s and the CDTV in early 90s. If you wonder the latter is a "multimedia CD-ROM appliance" thing i.e. overpriced garbage that no one wanted, to read multimedia encyclopedias on the living room's TV and the like. (but add the missing keyb, mouse and floppy and it's a full advanced 80s computer)
I wonder if Commodore collected royalties for CD 32 games. I guess they did, for the logo on the CD case. But my guess is there would have been rogue and self-published games, that also happen to work in 32bit Amiga computers with CD-ROM drive attached. So, is that a computer game or a console game? Just say it's a computer game and you won't have to pay royalties (perhaps that's one reason banks/investors didn't chip in)
Dishonorable mentions : the Atari XE game system (outdated, can use a keyboard etc. to turn into a souped up 1979 computer), Commodore 64 GS (outdated computer with no keyboard. you can use old cartridge games and be stuck because you miss the keyboard to navigate the game menu), Amstrad GX4000 (too bad, it was cute and had a good color palette. But two buttons on the controller with no start/select in 1990?), Apple Bandai Pippin : multimedia CD-ROM with slow ass Internet!
Turn a console into a computer : this existed although usually disastrous. That was the Coleco Adam in 1983, and perhaps rarely the Amiga CD 32 (with third party expansions). The PS2 linux kit later ; Dreamcast was maybe almost there (keyb, mouse and the built-in modem), it sure did accidentally support execution of arbitrary code because they built some support for.. multimedia CD-ROM! Then PS3 had computer mode out of the box : effectively linux on a slow single core hyperthreaded CPU, 256MB RAM and raw 2D graphics. But that was good enough for people to like it, until that ended in removal and law suit.
It's possible to sell the upgrade from console to computer. MS has just announced something very similar, Windows 10 S is half way between a console and a computer like an iPhone/iPad iOS thing is. They sell a $49 "upgrade" (that is likely a glorified registry setting). I can certainly imagine MS selling a Windows 10 version for say $99 to run on the Scorpio. MS is also a good keyboard and mouse vendor (this is what I give them credit for
Finally, I got a PC too. I keep firm on my idea of having a single platform to focus my free time on one, and I can use the PC all the time for that. Plus Xbox exclusive games will run on PC too. If MS releases the X360 emulator for PC someday then it would be perfect.
oh nevermind, I thought they were two completely different things. I think my cousin called it the Sinclair. Since Britain is its country of birth things were different there perhaps?
Tell @DSoup or @Shifty Geezer about it, I think about them and then I think about a nick like Mr. Fixit.
As I said, the most similar system I had seen was the "Sinclair" (Spectrum).
A Cyrix? Hah, that's cool. I can recall the Cyrix 6x86 at the store catalogue where I purchased my first PC. Wasn't it the equivalent to the Pentium 100? Or the Pentium overall? iirc the 486 equivalent was the Cyrix 5x86.
Even from that era, and after playing console games at the house my best childhood friend, I read pages of a magazine called Micromania and I was impressed by PC graphics, despite running on 386 or 486 processors. Indiana Jones, adventures like Elvira, etc, had very beaufiful cartoony graphics and a graphics style that was very very different from console games which were like cleaner -more square shaped so to say-, but less complex in my eyes.
haha, those were the kind of things that impressed you in games, elements of the game reacting to your actions in a logical way. Especially in a time where one is more easily impressed.
Well, yes, lucky me I first played Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on MS-DOS. Talked about it a few days ago with a friend who mentioned the original SF2 MSDOS version just for comparison and shared this video with me. Nuff' said....
Single seat multiplayer was a thing with one of my favourite franchises ever, Heroes of Might & Magic -especially 2, 3 and 5-. But I discovered Heroes of Might & Magic very late, because single seat multiplayer in HoMM 3 was very common in 1999, but I had never played the franchise then.
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