Samsung Galaxy S series rumours.....

[Deleted member 13524]

You think apple would announce new iphones in two quarters in a row?

 

[eastmen]

You think apple would announce new iphones in two quarters in a row?

The last of the new iphones were released in sept. So a march release date is 6 months difference.

 

[Turbotab]

Thanks to Chipworks' teardown, and some digging around on my part, it seems that the GS5's nand (KLMBG4GEAC) is eMMC 5.0! Finally we will see I/O speeds improve to acceptable levels on mobile.

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[Deleted member 13524]

New Galaxy model with a Snapdragon 805 and 5.2" screen with 1440p resolution has appeared in the GFXBench database.
All the rumours about the Galaxy S5 not being the flagship this year seem to be coming together now.

Comparing the Snapdragon 801 (in the One M8) with this early 805 seems to show a ~33% performance drop while drawing 85% more pixels. No "offline" results are available yet.
It looks like the Adreno 420 won't be that much faster than the 578MHz Adreno 330 from the S801.

For the 805 to fit in a 5" screen smartphone, Samsung is either paying top dollar for the best-binned chips or the S805 didn't come out as hot and power-hungry as we thought.


BTW, does the 805 need an external GSM/LTE modem? Wikipedia says it doesn't, but it's from the "APQ" line..

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

BTW, does the 805 need an external GSM/LTE modem?

Yes.

 

[Turbotab]

New Galaxy model with a Snapdragon 805 and 5.2" screen with 1440p resolution has appeared in the GFXBench database.
All the rumours about the Galaxy S5 not being the flagship this year seem to be coming together now.

Comparing the Snapdragon 801 (in the One M8) with this early 805 seems to show a ~33% performance drop while drawing 85% more pixels. No "offline" results are available yet.
It looks like the Adreno 420 won't be that much faster than the 578MHz Adreno 330 from the S801.

For the 805 to fit in a 5" screen smartphone, Samsung is either paying top dollar for the best-binned chips or the S805 didn't come out as hot and power-hungry as we thought.


BTW, does the 805 need an external GSM/LTE modem? Wikipedia says it doesn't, but it's from the "APQ" line..

It'll be interesting whether Samsung pair the S805 with Qualcomm's 4th gen 20nm MDM9x35 LTE baseband, which should definitely improve power draw. In a whitepaper Qualcomm state that S805 can offer the same performance as s800 with 20% lower power draw, so overall efficiency must have improved.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

It'll be interesting whether Samsung pair the S805 with Qualcomm's 4th gen 20nm MDM9x35 LTE baseband, which should definitely improve power draw. In a whitepaper Qualcomm state that S805 can offer the same performance as s800 with 20 lower power draw, so overall efficiency must have improved.

The 805 bundle Qualcomm sells comes with the new modem, so I would guess yes.

 

[Erinyes]

The 805 bundle Qualcomm sells comes with the new modem, so I would guess yes.

When do you think we will see the S805 and the 20nm modem out in a device? And any word on Qualcomm's 20nm SoC's?

 

[Turbotab]

The 805 bundle Qualcomm sells comes with the new modem, so I would guess yes.

They have stated that OEMS will have a choice of either a 20nm or 28nm LTE baseband, so it is not certain, I reckon it will come down to cost and yields of the new 20nm modem.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

There are 3 projects going on with Exynos SoCs :

All three are based on the 5430 (very high clock 5422 basically, default drivers at 2GHz A15, 1.5GHz A7, 600Mhz gpu. Voltages still point to same 28nm process. The 5422 and 5430 have new r4p0 Mali silicon. The 5430 has a HEVC decoder).

A3W5: something weird.
KQ: the S5 is K so this should be related to it.
S: something weird again.

The A3W5 comes in Wi-Fi, 3G and LTE (both Qualcomm) and an FHD or QHD 5.2" screen.

The KQ comes in LTE with an Intel XMM7260 or a Samsung Shannon 300 (Korea) and either an FHD or QHD 5.2" screen.

The S same as KQ but also in 3G : slte, s3g.


Have the feeling the KQ is the S5 prime. All models are ether EUR OPEN or KOR, so might have same global model distribution as the S3.


The 5430 comes with something called ARM intelligent power allocation, basically very fine grained power and TDP tracking.
It puts the A15 at 1.65W per core and A7 at 250mW. The GPU at 3.1W. Total power is limited through IPA at 3.5W.