Samsung Exynos 5250 - production starting in Q2 2012

[Deleted member 13524]

Pentile does have advantages..as outlined above..better longevity/power consumption/33% more space.

The reason why people call it a 'bug screen' and generally hate it compared to RBG??

It can be best summed up with this;

Those are two very distinct screens..
A more suitable comparison would be Galaxy S2's 800*480 RGB AMOLED vs. One S' 960*540 RGBG AMOLED, both at 4.3" (higher subpixel density vs. higher pixel density).

And this comparison should not be made while using a magnifier glass close-up.
The entire PenTile tech was developed through the fact that people aren't looking at their screens with a magnifier glass.

Nonetheless, comparisons with IPS screens are highly subjective. I for one wouldn't trade AMOLED's perfect contrast and black levels for slightly better text definition.
I'm pretty sure that IPS in high-end smartphones will die as soon as the pixel density issues are solved in RGB AMOLED screens.

 

[french toast]

Those are two very distinct screens..
A more suitable comparison would be Galaxy S2's 800*480 RGB AMOLED vs. One S' 960*540 RGBG AMOLED, both at 4.3" (higher subpixel density vs. higher pixel density).

And this comparison should not be made while using a magnifier glass close-up.
The entire PenTile tech was developed through the fact that people aren't looking at their screens with a magnifier glass.

Nonetheless, comparisons with IPS screens are highly subjective. I for one wouldn't trade AMOLED's perfect contrast and black levels for slightly better text definition.
I'm pretty sure that IPS in high-end smartphones will die as soon as the pixel density issues are solved in RGB AMOLED screens.

Fair point, AMOLED TO AMOLED would have been better...but the effect still remains..its less pronounced on PPI's above 310..but the picture quality is still worse compared to RGB.

Im not IPS will go away quite so soon.. its not just the PPI thats the problem with AMOLED..battery consumption is significantly higher on AMOLEDS v modern IPS.... blacks slightly favour AMOLEDS...mixed are about equal..but white backgrounds can spike power consumption by many times over IPS...


EDIT; Found a perfect example; Galaxy s2 RGB WVGA v moto Razr PENTILE QHD; both 4.3, both AMOLED, both likely made by Sammy,;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yuwEY2lA_Y

EDIT 2; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MlZVBlvImo

 

[glw]

Nonetheless, comparisons with IPS screens are highly subjective. I for one wouldn't trade AMOLED's perfect contrast and black levels for slightly better text definition.
I'm pretty sure that IPS in high-end smartphones will die as soon as the pixel density issues are solved in RGB AMOLED screens.

I agree. In practice I barely notice the issues with pentile screens, they certainly don't bother me, and the black levels and contrast are outstanding, a picture on a website does not do it justice. You need to see it side by side with an LCD to appreciate just how much better they are.

I have one AMOLED smart-phone, and a bunch of other smart-phones whose screens are in some cases higher resolution, but now look rubbish.

There's one downside with AMOLEDs, you can see that a lot of images on the web are a bit crap, what would appear and is intended to be black on an LCD is often really a dark muddy grey.

 

[Xmas]

And this comparison should not be made while using a magnifier glass close-up.

If you compare devices side-by-side, I agree. However if you want to let someone compare subpixel patterns based on photos, then those photos need to have sufficient resolution to actually represent the subpixel pattern (and be corrected for average brightness). Then viewers can take a few steps back from their own monitor to simulate their own typical viewing distance.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Preliminary commits to a Google repository reports Vithar/T604 running at 533MHz;

http://aosp.schiznik.net/?p=kernel/...9;hb=90642812306849f912f0f8a7a3ee9d919676bdd6

So recap; The next Google tablet will be powered by a 5250 at currently 1.7GHz, a T604 at 533MHz, with a 1280*800 screen with 223*125mm dimensions or 10.4".

 

[suryad]

Preliminary commits to a Google repository reports Vithar/T604 running at 533MHz;

http://aosp.schiznik.net/?p=kernel/...9;hb=90642812306849f912f0f8a7a3ee9d919676bdd6

So recap; The next Google tablet will be powered by a 5250 at currently 1.7GHz, a T604 at 533MHz, with a 1280*800 screen with 223*125mm dimensions or 10.4".

Bummer on the screen res and the size. Was hoping for a 11.x size and a 2560 x 1600 resolution.

 

[rpg.314]

Preliminary commits to a Google repository reports Vithar/T604 running at 533MHz;

http://aosp.schiznik.net/?p=kernel/...9;hb=90642812306849f912f0f8a7a3ee9d919676bdd6

So recap; The next Google tablet will be powered by a 5250 at currently 1.7GHz, a T604 at 533MHz, with a 1280*800 screen with 223*125mm dimensions or 10.4".

Awesome on specs, bummer on res. There has been a lot of talk on Google going with a 7" tablet to undercut iPad. If they are going ahead with a 10" one, then it's great. But that would put the Nexus tab next year.

 

[wco81]

"Next Google tablet?"

What's the first one?

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Awesome on specs, bummer on res. There has been a lot of talk on Google going with a 7" tablet to undercut iPad. If they are going ahead with a 10" one, then it's great. But that would put the Nexus tab next year.

Why would it put it next year?

"Next Google tablet?"

What's the first one?

Let me rephrase that; The next Google Nexus device will be a tablet, happy?


Edit:

New video out of Havok demo'ing their physics on this new device: http://www.havok.com/solutions/mobile-game-developers

I'm questioning the Samsung branding of it though, might not be a Nexus device after all from that. Contradicting sources.

 

[rpg.314]

Why would it put it next year?

Because it has A15.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Because it has A15.

So... ? 5250 is supposed to enter production this quarter or even right now, and seeing products in late summer or autumn with it.

 

[rpg.314]

So... ? 5250 is supposed to enter production this quarter or even right now, and seeing products in late summer or autumn with it.

Let's wait and see.

 

[dagamer]

Preliminary commits to a Google repository reports Vithar/T604 running at 533MHz;

http://aosp.schiznik.net/?p=kernel/...9;hb=90642812306849f912f0f8a7a3ee9d919676bdd6

So recap; The next Google tablet will be powered by a 5250 at currently 1.7GHz, a T604 at 533MHz, with a 1280*800 screen with 223*125mm dimensions or 10.4".

Huh? The next Google tablet is being made by ASUS. They even have a special team in Taipei working on it. It's going to be based around the $250 Tegra 3 tablet ASUS showed off at CES (but we've since heard that they are looking to go cheaper to more strongly compete agains the Kindle Fire).

When you look at the roadmap of products Samsung has in line, it's clear that one of the future flagship tablets will have an Eyxnos 5 Dual SoC needed to power a 2560x1600 Super AMOLED PenTile display. At this point, the question is yield and release date.

 

[Deleted member 13524]

New video out of Havok demo'ing their physics on this new device: http://www.havok.com/solutions/mobile-game-developers

Erm..
So Intel pucrhases Havok in 2008, and 4 years later they show an ARM version of Havok?!
Even weirder is that they're showing a GPU-accelerated version for ARM when they haven't even released a GPU-accelerated version for x86 OpenCL/DirectX Compute?!


I wonder if they'll release a version that alows using Intel's iGPU for physics.

 

[suryad]

When you look at the roadmap of products Samsung has in line, it's clear that one of the future flagship tablets will have an Eyxnos 5 Dual SoC needed to power a 2560x1600 Super AMOLED PenTile display. At this point, the question is yield and release date.

This sounds more like Samsung. I can't wait to have one of those bad boys. I am sick of my brother in law and his iPad with the 'retina' display.

 

[tangey]

This sounds more like Samsung. I can't wait to have one of those bad boys. I am sick of my brother in law and his iPad with the 'retina' display.

Sounds like the issue is more to do with your brother-in-law than anything to do with hardware.

 

[wco81]

Or more to do with the poster.

 

[suryad]

Or more to do with the poster.

Oooh personal attacks! Love it. But this being the internet I know not to feed the...troll?

Stumbled across this. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...phics-adding-to-a-quad-core-processor_id30172

Been looking for a decent tablet replacement since my Touchpad got stolen. I am excited. This will go well with my TV too with the AllShare and all that.

 

[anexanhume]

Oooh personal attacks! Love it. But this being the internet I know not to feed the...troll?

Stumbled across this. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...phics-adding-to-a-quad-core-processor_id30172

Been looking for a decent tablet replacement since my Touchpad got stolen. I am excited. This will go well with my TV too with the AllShare and all that.

Why mention superfluous stuff and then be shocked when it gets commented on?

I bet your touchpad got stolen because you left it out in the open. See how that works?

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

That's quite the jump on the pixel fillrate reported on Taiji!