xbdestroya said:What's the propensity of people in these boards to just link to articles rather than provide some pertinent text?
Anyway this is a big kick in the balls to Sony, that's for sure. Here's Microsoft encrouching on their console space, and not only that, while doing so letting you know that Sony's main competitor Samsung is the name you want to associate with HD-TV when you go to buy.
Looks like Samsung are gonna be plastered everywhere!Samsung Electronics and Microsoft enjoy a long-standing relationship as strategic and tactical business partners. Microsoft Xbox currently incorporates Samsung technology, and Samsung will continue to be a tech driver for the next-generation Xbox video game console. Microsoft's first high-definition game will incorporate Samsung-branded products as well as instances of Samsung's logo as part of the overall HD gaming experience. This will mark the first time Microsoft incorporates a consumer electronics technology partner with the Xbox console and games.
pc999 said:Well they say "global HDTV".
Y will hate see my TV. after see those HDTVs, well I hope to be able to input to a PC monitor, like REV.
Shifty Geezer said:MS were hardly going to partner with Sony for an HD display on XB360 kiosks, were they! If it's just a case of Samsung providing the demo kit, it's no big deal. If on the other hand MS are activiely pushing people to buy Samsung, with 'Samsung - The way it should be seen' or other such naffy slogans every five minutes on Live!, then it might influence matters a little more.
Doubt it'll amount to much though. Do you ever pay attention who provides the TV of a console demo kiosk? You see the visuals and think 'Wow, that looks good!' assuming it'd look as good at home, without thinking, 'Better get myself a <brand> TV so it's as good for me'. Did sales of <brand> TVs go up for whoever provides existing gen kiosk displays?
xbdestroya said:LOL, what am I on about? This is more than screens in demo areas, I guarantee you that. This is going to be either Samsung coming out with ads along the lines of: "When Microsoft decided to enter the HD-Era, they chose the the superior Samsung range of HD-TVs to display their systems power..."
or a Microsoft ad for Xbox 360 that features the Samsung logo prominently displayed at the end of the commercial and/or on the television the 'gamers' are playing on (if shown at all).
Believe me when I say that Samsung and/or Microsoft will go out of their way to ensure that Samsung gains as much mind-share as possible in the minds of the consumer as it relates to XBox and HD-TV.
The next-generation Xbox and Samsung HDTV combination is designed to deliver the most advanced and realistic high-definition experience to gamers worldwide. To promote the HD Era, the companies plan to place over 25,000 Samsung high-definition televisions in Microsoft® Xbox retail kiosk locations across the globe.
london-boy said:Well it could be, but i see that as Microsoft making themselves a lot of enemies. Samsung are big, but there are a lot of other manufacturers out there, and The Rest > Samsung
Phil said:I think the implied "kick in the balls" was more in reference that Microsoft, Sony's biggest competitor in the console market, is partnering with Sony's biggest rival in the consumer electronic space.
xbdestroya said:london-boy said:Well it could be, but i see that as Microsoft making themselves a lot of enemies. Samsung are big, but there are a lot of other manufacturers out there, and The Rest > Samsung
I don't see how that would make enemies out of the other companies. If nothing else, in what ways do ther consumer electronics companies even interact with Microsoft? They don't, because at the end of the day, the XBox is their only piece of consumer electronics.
xbdestroya said:Phil said:I think the implied "kick in the balls" was more in reference that Microsoft, Sony's biggest competitor in the console market, is partnering with Sony's biggest rival in the consumer electronic space.
Yes indeed it was. It's like some sort of nightmare double-team in Sony's mind I'm sure.
london-boy said:If they start going around advertising "Samsung is the BEST way to play your Xbox2", I'm sure Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Sharp and all other HDTV makers will be well pissed off, that's what i meant. Especially because it's just not true. A good HDTV is a good HDTV.
So far, the information is that they just bought 25000 Samsung LCD screens to be used in Xbox2 kiosks. All the rest is speculation.
xbdestroya said:Wait, let's assume your right, and the other HD-TV makers get pissed off. What are they going to do about it? Nothing. Why would Microsoft even care about pissing them off? They wouldn't.
You think this deal is just about kiosks; I don't. In the end we'll see. Or rather, I'll see, since I imagine this marketing campaign would be done primarily/exclusvely in the US.
london-boy said:Fine, i'm talking according to the information that we have received. You're speculating.
There is no reason why MS would suddenly partner with a TV manufacturer. It wouldn't help their Xbox2 campaign in any way. It would only help Samsung, so unless Samsung are paying MS a LOT to couple the Xbox2 name to the Samsung name, i don't see this happening.
The Xbox2 will sell either way, with or without Samsung, it's Samsung that would profit a whole lot from millions of gamers seeing "Samsung and Xbox2 - The way it's meant to be played" on billboards.
Samsung would have to pay MS a lot because at the end of the day, all other manufacturers might want a piece of the action, offering big cash to couple their name to the next big thing in the videogame market.