Have you seen the videos..?
It kind of is to be fair..
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Mass Effect is as much of a shooter as KOTOR is an adventure game.
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I am impressed. So in the next few weeks Sony will have hit 1M units in all major territories.
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Mass Effect is as much of a shooter as KOTOR is an adventure game.
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I am impressed. So in the next few weeks Sony will have hit 1M units in all major territories.
Gradthrawn
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I don't think they're even half way there in Japan. At about ~440k IIRC.
Pretty sure the Wii Sal... I mean Japan Sales thread say that the LTD is like ~900k.
Gradthrawn
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I was looking at Hardware sales posted over at the The Magic Box, for the week of May 21st - 27th.
I thought the 2nd number was total system sales, but then it just dawned on me that that must be year-to-date, as the PS2 has sold a little more than 357,000 units in its lifetime.
Like Wii Sports, Brain Training,...
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Shifty, did you just class Mass Effect as a shooter?
I'm pretty sure you could play the entire game without shooting anything, using only force powers. It's an RPG, where you explore the universe and build your character and party, shooting is just the battle mechanic, and even then, you don't even aim! It has autolock.
Shifty - would you also consider Drake Fortune a 'shooter' because it is a behind the shoulder camera where you shoot a gun? Seems rather silly in this day and age of mixing genres to try and throw every game that uses a weapon into 'shooter'.
archangelmorph
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It depends if shooting is the principle of the gameplay. I probably would class DF as a shooter, whether there's an amazing story or not, if most of the time you're ducking and running and shooting. There has to be more to a game than just a storyline to elevate it from shooter to adventure game.
What I've seen of ME was people running around shooting, so that's why I think it's a shooter. It might not be that way, and perhaps there's lots of exploration, experimentation, combination of power or items, etc. That hasn't come across in what vids I've seen though.
I agree that single label classifications aren't ideal, and you can (and probably do) have games where there's shooting as an element but they're not shooters. Bioshock might be one of those. It all depends, IMO, on the degree of other aspects. A so called adventure game that has a couple of easy puzzles, reams of wordy dialogue, and a lot of running around shooting things, is a shooter to me. If there's more to the game than that, it might move it towards the adventure side. Or is that adventure point of the game-genre pentagon (thinking of PES stats pentagon
)?Anywho, this is all off topic. Perhaps game classification and genre representation per console needs its own thread?
Fu3lFr3nzy
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someone hasnt been paying attention to old news?
GTHD was originally canned and PD shifts focus on GT5. Now, it seems GTHD is on track for a release this year, following GT5 next year.
I sincerely doubt PD would ship GT5 soon after GTHD this year. 2008 makes perfect sense.
Gradthrawn
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What about Japan?
Our discussion in regards to strong software lineups seems to have focused solely on the western markets. What, if anything, is there to help in the east with Japan where both the 360 and PS3 seem to be falling on their faces (in 07, that is)? IGN's 360 and PS3 Japanese release list seems far too sparse to be accurate. Unless that actually is the future state of things, in which case it looks like neither will have anything to bolster sales in Japan. Outside of Lost Odyssey, I can't see much.
Our discussion in regards to strong software lineups seems to have focused solely on the western markets. What, if anything, is there to help in the east with Japan where both the 360 and PS3 seem to be falling on their faces (in 07, that is)? IGN's 360 and PS3 Japanese release list seems far too sparse to be accurate. Unless that actually is the future state of things, in which case it looks like neither will have anything to bolster sales in Japan. Outside of Lost Odyssey, I can't see much.
One million units is impressive. I hope for Sony's sake that they lower the price of the PS3 in 08 just so it can compete with the 360. Exclusive games will only take a company so far. If the other competing machines has a larger install base and just as many exclusives with a lower price on the system itself than it's just an uphill battle.
1 million people bought it with fewer titles available
Sorry, I'm not having that. Europe is less price sensitive than the US. And content is king.
Seems like anything I say on here is jumped on here by you. Not sure what your problem is.
someone hasnt been paying attention to old news?
GTHD was originally canned and PD shifts focus on GT5. Now, it seems GTHD is on track for a release this year, following GT5 next year.
I sincerely doubt PD would ship GT5 soon after GTHD this year. 2008 makes perfect sense.
As Arwin mentioned, I think that we'll still see something before Christmas, similar to the GT:HD Demo like GT4 Prologue.
I mean FFS! GT:HD is one track. Hardly a big 'game'
Did you check if Sony was lying when they compared it to the PS1 or PS2 launch, while they may have been bottleneck´d back then with the numbers they could ship it doesn´t change the fact (if it´s true) that they have more PS3´s out now in a shorter timeframe.
Johnny Awesome
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Exactly right. When you consider that Sony sold about 700k in the first week at launch, 300k units in 8 weeks is not great really. It's only 150k per month. You'll see that fade out even more over the summer unless there's a price drop. When MS drops to $299 Sony simply has to drop to $399 if they want to be competitive. That's the perceived value right now IMO.
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