Qualcomm Krait & MSM8960 @ AnandTech
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As I said it could be the Nexus7 successor for Google with the CPU clocked higher. It could of course also be a ~25% higher clocked Adreno320 (ie ~500MHz), but I'd rather be optimistic and hope for driver improvements
I wont gloat ailuros
..Yea this is prety much what I thought..better drivers and more bandwidth and we would see the real adreno 320...just imagine then adreno 330 and 4 kraits running @ 2.3ghz in a sodding smartphone!?.....awesome
Tegra 4 is pretty much dead on arrival...exynos 5 octo hasnt egen entered the arena yet
Edit let alone apples/st errickson offerings
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I wont gloat ailuros
You realize it's way too early to jump to any conclusions yet.
Yea this is prety much what I thought..better drivers and more bandwidth and we would see the real adreno 320...just imagine then adreno 330 and 4 kraits running @ 2.3ghz in a sodding smartphone!?.....awesome
And what if its a tablet variant of a current SoC just with higher CPU/GPU frequencies? It's not that I'd want it to be like that; the more each of them achieves the better for me without any exceptions.
Tegra 4 is pretty much dead on arrival...exynos 5 octo hasnt egen entered the arena yet
Edit let alone apples/st errickson offerings
Are you sure you wouldn't want to even crawl further out on that limb of yours?
The one thing that is confusing is that LG Optimus Pro is semi-confirmed to have S600 and that one is clocked at 1,7 GHz. Given that S600 is still on same LP process as APQ8064, i have to question if this Samsung device is a phone or tablet
But its also possible that we are looking at a regional version of Galaxy S4. Samsung used MSM8960 for Galaxy S3 in North America
But its also possible that we are looking at a regional version of Galaxy S4. Samsung used MSM8960 for Galaxy S3 in North America
Fudo amongst others is claiming that Google's Nexus 7 successor will contain a Qualcomm S4 PRO SoC due to NV needing a respin for T4. It could be either a S4 candidate for Samsung or a tablet design such as the one with Google.
french toast
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You realize it's way too early to jump to any conclusions yet.
And what if its a tablet variant of a current SoC just with higher CPU/GPU frequencies? It's not that I'd want it to be like that; the more each of them achieves the better for me without any exceptions.
Are you sure you wouldn't want to even crawl further out on that limb of yours?
Ha im inching out there ailuros...the branch is starting to creak but its still holding
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LG Optimus Pro G now confirmed to have S600 clocked at 1,7 GHz
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/17/lg-optimus-g-pro-specs-na-launch-q2/
Also new Nenamark benchmark shows Verizon version of Galaxy S4 (possibly)
http://thedroidguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/gs4-nenamark2.png
Another version of Galaxy S4 also appeared in Antutu (GT-I9505) clocked at 1,9 GHz scoring almost 24k wich seems reasonable for a Snapdragon S600
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/17/lg-optimus-g-pro-specs-na-launch-q2/
Also new Nenamark benchmark shows Verizon version of Galaxy S4 (possibly)
http://thedroidguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/gs4-nenamark2.png
Another version of Galaxy S4 also appeared in Antutu (GT-I9505) clocked at 1,9 GHz scoring almost 24k wich seems reasonable for a Snapdragon S600
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Nenamark...vsync..otherwise snapdragon s600 @ 1.7ghz looks like a very nice chip.
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Htc one snapdragon s600 kishonti....
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?D1=Google+Nexus+4&D2=HTC+One&cols=2
Note lpddr2. ..still no new drivers?..essentially the same score as s4 pro.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?D1=Google+Nexus+4&D2=HTC+One&cols=2
Note lpddr2. ..still no new drivers?..essentially the same score as s4 pro.
Under GL_Config and GL_Version:
Nexus4:
OpenGL ES 2.0 V@6.0 AU@ (CL@2961380)
HTC One:
OpenGL ES 2.0 V@4.1 AU@3.04.01.01.13.018 (CL@)
Samsung SVH-E300S:
OpenGL ES 2.0 V@14.0 AU@ (CL@3097893)
Of course I don't have a clue what each stands for; but if those are driver versions, the last one could be the most recent one.
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Lets hope so..I was hoping to see the htc one with the latest drivers...without the lpddr3 speed up and we could see just how much performance those drivers really do add all by them self.
I'd guess that GLB is in its majority GPU bound. That shouldn't mean that if you'd have a CPU bound platform that it wouldn't show, but until now I can't think of any such case.
I doubt you'd see such a case at once. Over time in smaller portions most likely yes. Better safe than sorry they say.
So it would be safe to assume this small increase is not related to the increase in CPU frequency?
If Samsung is using lddr3 in their phone, its likely that the big boost in Galaxy S4 was mainly from the increased bandwidth
What i find odd is that Qualcomms press release talks about a "speed enhanced Adreno 320" for S600 but in the leaked roadmap we found, the frequency for APQ8064/Pro was still 400 MHz
I can't exclude it but it doesn't sound likely. These are the so far results of the HTC One:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/subtest_results_of_device.jsp?D=HTC+One&id=448&benchmark=glpro25
Here are the so far results of the Nexus4 and there are quite wild fluctuations occassionally in performance:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/subtest_results_of_device.jsp?D=Google+Nexus+4&id=448&benchmark=glpro25
Which Galaxy S4? Yes it's an honest quetion since I don't have a clue what the S4 is going to have.
Either they didn't mention it in the roadmap or the performance increase comes from elsewhere like more SoC bandwidth for instance.
*pure speculation* but im assuming that atleast the USA version of Galaxy S4 will be 1,9 GHz S600.
Yes the reason i dislike the Nexus 4 benchmark result is because its too inconsistent and i suspect the people who are submitting high results are doing the freezer trick. Or they live in Canada (cold)
Yes the reason i dislike the Nexus 4 benchmark result is because its too inconsistent and i suspect the people who are submitting high results are doing the freezer trick. Or they live in Canada (cold)
*pure speculation* but im assuming that atleast the USA version of Galaxy S4 will be 1,9 GHz S600.
Yes the reason i dislike the Nexus 4 benchmark result is because its too inconsistent and i suspect the people who are submitting high results are doing the freezer trick. Or they live in Canada (cold)
You know that the Nexus4 is not the best example you could get for obvious reasons....
*ahem* http://www.glbenchmark.com/subtest_results_of_device.jsp?D=HTC+Butterfly&id=448&benchmark=glpro25
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Did we ever get a sense of how common throttling was in the Adreno 320? It could be that an improved process (28HPM vs 28LP? or just more mature 28LP) and/or layout allows the S600 to hit 400MHz more consistently than before within the same thermal envelope.
S600 is still LP but thats definately possible for the HTC One version. But the Samsung device is hitting 40fps
Either the GPU is clocked at ~480MHz or it's truly a newer driver version as the number gibberish above I posted might indicate. Either way it's excellent news.
