PS4 officially Jail Broken!

Any more info available on the exploit and Linux patches?

I guess the only real known exploit is the webkit issue on the old ps4 firmware. Basically you can get webkit jit engine to execute small amount of arbitrary assembler code. Then there is known issues on the freebsd kernel that are exploited by the hackers code running inside webkit process.

Known holes have been fixed on new ps4 firmware versions but who knows what else there is left that hackers can use in current firmware.
 
Given the current state of affairs, how possible would it be for someone to hack a windows installation into a PS4? Maybe hack an AMD APU driver into it too?

For €300, the PS4 could be one hell of a gaming-capable media center.
 
That'd be pretty awesome, but the current state of affairs has this as a very, very low probability because current FW is unhacked. These hacks are working on old, outdated (and non-updated, which limits functioanlity as a console) machines.
 
Given the current state of affairs, how possible would it be for someone to hack a windows installation into a PS4? Maybe hack an AMD APU driver into it too?
Right now it's completely impossible because the PS4 remains locked down. The compromise allowed this team to use a known exploit of an old version of webkit to have webkit give up what it has access too but the webkit thread was locked behind a BSD jail - a sandbox. It's a huge stretch between this, breaking out of jail, compromising the kernel and ultimately the hypervisor. The PS4 also has embedded ARM chip and if that's running a TrustZone lock solution, even breaking the hypervisor will mean nothing.

The only way this can happen is if Sony want it to happen but they got burned with linux on PS3 so there's no incentive for Sony to open up PS4 to another operating system.
 
Right now it's completely impossible because the PS4 remains locked down. The compromise allowed this team to use a known exploit of an old version of webkit to have webkit give up what it has access too but the webkit thread was locked behind a BSD jail - a sandbox. It's a huge stretch between this, breaking out of jail, compromising the kernel and ultimately the hypervisor. The PS4 also has embedded ARM chip and if that's running a TrustZone lock solution, even breaking the hypervisor will mean nothing.

The only way this can happen is if Sony want it to happen but they got burned with linux on PS3 so there's no incentive for Sony to open up PS4 to another operating system.
I think there would be no harm for the PS4 to allow several OSes like BeOS, Windows, Linux, etc, on it.
 
I think there would be no harm for the PS4 to allow several OSes like BeOS, Windows, Linux, etc, on it.
If you allow installation of an open operating system then this could reveal a crack in the armour. Aren't you studying computer science? :neutral:
 
Nintendo 3DS hacking is a good example of this. News from today..
If you allow installation of an open operating system then this could reveal a crack in the armour. Aren't you studying computer science? :neutral:
my bad..., (first in my class this first trimester, grades wise. :) , no kidding, extra focus on security starts next year btw) But I wasn't thinking about security at all, you have a point there --sigh, and this comes from someone who never uses an administrator account but a standard one for security reasons. My dream console is similar though.

I just got excited because of today's news. Nintendo 3DS hacking is a good example of this. Windows 95 can be seen running on a 3DS now, and it was my first OS ever. RetroRampage, a 18 year old guy, shared the news.

http://kotaku.com/heres-windows-95-running-on-a-new-nintendo-3ds-1750678441

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Are you sure that's not Windows CE?
Did Windows 95 ever have ARM binaries? Or could it be emulated?

Right now it's completely impossible because the PS4 remains locked down. The compromise allowed this team to use a known exploit of an old version of webkit to have webkit give up what it has access too but the webkit thread was locked behind a BSD jail - a sandbox. It's a huge stretch between this, breaking out of jail, compromising the kernel and ultimately the hypervisor. The PS4 also has embedded ARM chip and if that's running a TrustZone lock solution, even breaking the hypervisor will mean nothing.

The only way this can happen is if Sony want it to happen but they got burned with linux on PS3 so there's no incentive for Sony to open up PS4 to another operating system.

Meeeeh... maybe with the XBone, at Microsoft's will, then.
 
If you allow installation of an open operating system then this could reveal a crack in the armour. Aren't you studying computer science? :neutral:
it there would be a way to create perfect abstraction between layers on a console.. A few weeks ago the OSes subject teacher had to fix a pendrive someone gave to him that didn't show any content at all, but the free space on the device clearly indicated that space was that there was data in it, just invisible.

He tried with Linux, with Windows, with his Mac, etc etc etc, nothing worked! I'd call it an almost perfect solution. Can you imagine what was the fix? Using MS-DOS and changing the attributes with the ATTRIB command! :smile: :LOL:
 
Are you sure that's not Windows CE?
Did Windows 95 ever have ARM binaries? Or could it be emulated?

I wondered the same. I had a few WinCE devices (and still have them) and that screenshot looks very familiar.

Meeeeh... maybe with the XBone, at Microsoft's will, then.

Probably and there's more chance of Microsoft opening Xbox One than Sony opening up PS4!
 
Right now it's completely impossible because the PS4 remains locked down. The compromise allowed this team to use a known exploit of an old version of webkit to have webkit give up what it has access too but the webkit thread was locked behind a BSD jail - a sandbox. It's a huge stretch between this, breaking out of jail, compromising the kernel and ultimately the hypervisor. The PS4 also has embedded ARM chip and if that's running a TrustZone lock solution, even breaking the hypervisor will mean nothing.

The only way this can happen is if Sony want it to happen but they got burned with linux on PS3 so there's no incentive for Sony to open up PS4 to another operating system.

Hackers were able to compromise the ps4 kernel not just webkit process.
 
What would be the point? It would only be as worse than a Rasperry Pi (2) (louder, more expensive, bigger etc).
If you already own a PS4, it would be advantageous if it could run more software if the other option is to buy more hardware.
 
Hackers were able to compromise the ps4 kernel not just webkit process.
Yeah, I've seen the video but something is a bit fishy and I'm not convinced they are doing much more than running linux within the space of the webkit thread. As a demonstration why only run a program with a tiny footprint? Why no complete boot logs?
 
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