PS3 UK price

Which is odd seeing as the UK / Europe are far behind HD uptake in comparison to other regions.
 
Dave Baumann said:
Which is odd seeing as the UK / Europe are far behind HD uptake in comparison to other regions.

That is a bit strange actually. As can be found at the link:

"I don't think it's an expensive machine; I think actually, it's probably a cheap machine," he commented. "If you think a Blu-Ray player by itself might be GBP 600-700, and we're coming in at just GBP 425 - it's a bargain."

No doubt it is a bargain, but I really didn't expect going this route to justify their price, since, especially here in most of Europe, HD is really far way of and most consumers will most likely not look into this purchase as a cheap BR player, but rather an expensive gamming console...
 
Crap deal and way to overpriced. The majority of people will want it as a console not a HD player and its simply to much. The games are also rumoured to be more.
 
dave_m123 said:
The games are also rumoured to be more.


this is the important part imo....


the rumoured prices i have seen are frankly stupid (around the £60+ mark) - sony have already put them selves at a substantially (£135) higher price point than MS, to charge more than 360 games as well would put the final nail in the "priced out of market" coffin.


unless they can cost improve substantially and relatively quickly after launch i see a lot of people simply unable to afford a ps3, a spare controller and a game or two. I mean in terms of the christmas/birthday market that's a £600 odd present!


the high price of the console they can get away with for now in my opinion, in all honesty they could price it higher and still sell out of launch shipments (case in point: x360's on ebay...), but it's the game prices that could make or break the mid-long term market.

of course, those rumours could be absolute bunk
 
Already being discussed in the "Playstation 3: Hardware Info and Price" thread, starting at post #655 ;)

Platon said:
EDIT: If posted already, I'm sorry, but couldn't find in a search I did.

There are so many posts here and so many 20+ page threads (threads with over 400 posts) it is nearly impossible to find things at time. Totally understood!
 
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With the European adoption of HDTV being very low and slow, coupled with these prices (system and games), I wonder if a lot of people will hold off until they: 1. Get a HD set 2. System and game prices come down.
 
Acert93 said:
Already being discussed in the "Playstation 3: Hardware Info and Price" thread, starting at post #655 ;)



There are so many posts here and so many 20+ page threads (threads with over 400 posts) it is nearly impossible to find things at time. Totally understood!

And I who thought that I had been updating myself quite well in that the thread, still that escaped me:oops: .

No its not, its being sold as a GAME CONSOLE not a freakin Blu-ray player. I was a betamax victim before so I don't wanna see the sequel to that movie with blu-max so its not a bargain to me since I'm paying for something I'll never use.

As Nesh said, I guess Sony will be approaching the PS3 marketing as an entertainment system. Of course no doubt its main function still, in most peoples eyes, is that it is a gamming system, which might be the problem for Sony as people will not understand the value of what they are getting for that price, rather concider it expensive for a gamming system...
 
RobertR1 said:
Explain this to me. What's an "entertainment system" and when did the demand become so great for one???
Its a system designed to offer entertainment in various forms. There. It wasnt that hard was it? :mrgreen:

The demand didnt become great. They are trying to make it great :p
 
Nesh said:
Its a system designed to offer entertainment in various forms. There. It wasnt that hard was it? :mrgreen:

The demand didnt become great. They are trying to make it great :p

Exactly. People will go "huh? ookkk...... oh cool! a PS3 for games!" Shouldn't an entertainment system come with a universal remote control that'll control all your devices and truly act as an entertainment hub? That'd be the first thing I'd think of when designing an "entertainment machine."
 
RobertR1 said:
Exactly. People will go "huh? ookkk...... oh cool! a PS3 for games!" Shouldn't an entertainment system come with a universal remote control that'll control all your devices and truly act as an entertainment hub? That'd be the first thing I'd think of when designing an "entertainment machine."
We still dont know complete details of the PS3's interface and how you can use the controller as a remote control of some sorts...atleast for the PS3.

Things will be clearer when they release the console. Then we will know how well it will fair as an entertainment system. It also supports a KB and mouse if I am not mistaken which kind of makes us think of some possibilites Sony may be considering for the system.

Linux is preinstalled too right?

Sony did have plans to use the PS3 as a hub but the cost probably was a barrier. I wonder if Sony will release future versions that will act as a hub

But for now many people arent convinced to spend $500 for something they arent sure about
 
Platon said:
£425, it seems that UKers will have to be paying a bit more than US and the rest of the Europe. Also there is a possibility of only the premium version being launched in UK...
like (for majority of eu lands) petrol,beer,food etc
ie whats new
another question to rub the point in,
whens the last time u saw a ship of passangers leave france etc to goto the uk to buy cigarrette/alchol whatever
 
425+VAT or is that already including VAT?

"A bit more" is an understatement. Thats ~28% more then the US/Japan etc.. (34% if consumers in those countries can get away with online purchase without tax)....basically $800 a pop. If thats not including VAT (which it may not be since VAT included moves it conveniently to £499) that actually comes out to scraping just under 1000US a console which is literally laughable. It will be 1000US with 1 game. Can that be right?


If so, Sony must hate you.
 
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SugarCoat said:
425+VAT or is that already including VAT?

"A bit more" is an understatement. Thats ~28% more then the US/Japan etc.. (34% if consumers in those countries can get away with online purchase without tax)....basically $800 a pop. If thats not including VAT (which it may not be since VAT included moves it conveniently to £499) that actually comes out to scraping just under 1000US a console which is literally laughable. It will be 1000US with 1 game. Can that be right?


If so, Sony must hate you.

All EU prices include VAT.
 
Given the dropping stength of the dollar, doubly sucky. An 'exact' conversion at 1.88 dollars per pound, $600 PS3 = £320. That's £375 with 17.5% VAT. Well, I guess that's not as bad as it first seemed. £400 would be a fairer price, and a 'round figure' to boot that fits comfortably into spending concepts.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Given the dropping stength of the dollar, doubly sucky. An 'exact' conversion at 1.88 dollars per pound, $600 PS3 = £320. That's £375 with 17.5% VAT. Well, I guess that's not as bad as it first seemed. £400 would be a fairer price, and a 'round figure' to boot that fits comfortably into spending concepts.


Still shows these companies dont pay much attention at all to conversion rates or the effects of taxes. MS did better this time around, but if you remember with the Xbox they initially did a 1:1 conversion and went £100 over the competition. Course later they gave anyone who paid the higher price the option of a free package if they came to a store with their sales slip which was nice. PS2 was a 1:1 conversion as well during its launch.
 
That's the usual way. I don't think it's ignoring conversion rates though, but pricing for different markets. Like petrol can be 5% more expensive in some parts of the country than others, based on nothing other than local prices. Madness, really. I imagine Sony picked a price that fitted with what they think the market would accomodate (read higher CE goods on average) to make as much money as possible, which is the whole point of this. And the whole basis of marketting. Sell for as much as your customers are willing to spend.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Given the dropping stength of the dollar, doubly sucky. An 'exact' conversion at 1.88 dollars per pound, $600 PS3 = £320. That's £375 with 17.5% VAT. Well, I guess that's not as bad as it first seemed. £400 would be a fairer price, and a 'round figure' to boot that fits comfortably into spending concepts.
Is there sales tax in addition to VAT? If not, I'd subtract about 8 off the VAT, since most consumers here in the states will be paying for a sales tax of about 8%.
 
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