PS3 2005 launch?
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Playstation2 was possibly going to come out in 1999. but it didn't happen.
Playstation3 has always been late 2005 to mid 2006 launch. I expect an early to mid 2006 launch in Japan, fall 2006 for USA - CA - UK - EU
Playstation3 has always been late 2005 to mid 2006 launch. I expect an early to mid 2006 launch in Japan, fall 2006 for USA - CA - UK - EU
It could launch in 2005. But with a launch lineup rivaling only the Philips Cd-i or amiga cd32. Basically the hardware could come out, but most 3rd parties haven't been working on games very long from what I understand. I don't think sony would want to be launching a system with 5 games against Xenon launching with 15-20 or more and probably a lower price. Of course i could be wrong.
Thats the main reason I doubt we'll see PS3 in 2005. How many devs actually have PS3 SDK if any? Now if the Devs only got them recently and say PS3 was given a December launch, thats really only leaves 10 months tops (but probably less) to develop launch titles. I'm sure that's enough time to develop some Mahjong and other puzzle and board game titles, but if thats all there is to offer at launch other than some really rushed lackluster titles, then I believe a lot of people would boycott it initially.
I think a March 2006 launch in more credible in any event.
I think a March 2006 launch in more credible in any event.
one said:Hey, I found GwymWeepa already brought in a rumor in a similar tone 2 weeks ago!
The missing pieces are,
1. Game software
2. Blu-ray
But between Mar 2006 and late 2005 are just about 4 months. 8)
And you are forgetting working development kits.
No "final" dev kits means no games, no games means no release.
But lets say they are puting the 90nm 1PPE:8SPE CELL and a NV40 graphics chil into a dev box so they can release in 2005. Compare that to X2 dev kits that have the finished R500 and regardless of stats I think Sony would be setting themselves up for egg on their face.
2006 is a great launch window for Sony. They get BR, a cutting edge NV chip, and have enough time to get a couple killer titles ready for launch--and there should be some savings to be had with a 6-12mo later launch (and a process shrink right around the corner if they launch at 90nm). If Sony wows the crowds at E3 who cares if they do not release in 2005? They will have a much more solid software launch in 2006.
Sony has had a really effective gameplan so far. I do not really see why they would want to deviate.
Ty said:
How many quality games are available for the PSP?
And it is an apples-to-oranges comparison. Look at the console market and the handheld market. When you compare the competition the PSP has (DS, GBA, GBC) we are looking at two different dynamics. The PSP entered a market where it is undoubtably heads and shoulders above the competition technologically (bigger, brighter screen at a higher resolution, more 3D power, more storage capacity) and then look at the home console market where they are facing 2 technoligically sound/advanced consoles that will have formidable launch lineups, it just does not add up.
Outside of "We want it!!!" I have never heard a good reason for Sony to rush the PS3 out. They are the market leader by far (that huge install base means there are a lot of people to sell games to; a new console means a new smaller install base) and have had a plan for 2006 for a while. Is there anything urgent that would indicate pushing it forward would be a sound financial move? Milking (in a good way) the PS2 install base another year while focusing on an excellent 2006 launch with a solid piece of HW and a few killer apps is better than a sloppy software launch and rushed HW.
I know you are just saying "Well, they did not stop them with PSP" but I see them as two different animals. They had an oppurtunity with the PSP to launch side by side with the NDS and be much more advanced. And gamers expect different levels of depth and interactivity compared to a handheld and a next gen system. The PSP is basically getting PS2 style games, while on the PS3 gamers will expect next gen software--not rehashed games.
And to make these new games requires money, time, and working HW. Not to say one or two companies could not get something out, but considering Sony had a launch date of 2006 in mind and developers have planned their titles around that goal, asking them to move forward a year means either trashing their title by taking out features or rushing it. ANd it all goes back to why?
To play with MS? Why would Sony care what MS does? Sony can very well paint the MS early launch and 4yr life cycle as a desparate move (Nintendo already has!). If PS3 comes out this fall I will be shocked.
Acert93 said:How many quality games are available for the PSP?
Sorry, I was being pedantic but we didn't get our final dev kits till AFTER we submitted (heck to be honest I'm not even sure if we have them yet!). Ergo your statement wasn't correct for the PSP.
I wasn't disagreeing with any of your other points (I actually didn't read it), I'm just saying your presumption was incorrect about the PSP. I'm not arguing that it might apply to the PS3 or not.
Theres no way Ps3 is releasing in 2005 IMO, I even doubt a mid 2006 relese, I only see that happening if Sony is surprised by Xbox2 sales performance.
But my very personal guess is that Kutagari plan A is to release after summer and try to crush Xbox2 specs as much as posible, Plan B release April-May with highers costs and production problems somewhat like PSP launch...
Xmas 2005 plan = Ps2 100$
And they are going to sell a truckload of them at that price...
But my very personal guess is that Kutagari plan A is to release after summer and try to crush Xbox2 specs as much as posible, Plan B release April-May with highers costs and production problems somewhat like PSP launch...
Xmas 2005 plan = Ps2 100$
And they are going to sell a truckload of them at that price...
From what I can tell, a higher proportion than what the PS2 launched with. Or the Xbox. Or the Gamecube.Acert93 said:How many quality games are available for the PSP?
I mean it actually has more than TWO!Regardless, I do not expect to see the PS3 until at least March of 2006--but I do expect that we will know the complete information on ALL the systems before any one of them in particular launches, and I don't think we'll be talking about a huge sway of time between them all.
On this point, though:
...I think you're missing the target. Players will expect "next gen graphics" and perhaps the easier adoption of a few more relevant pieces of tech, but I rather doubt they expect the software to be automaticall any more "next gen" than the PSP's are for the portable arena--a damn sight better-looking than what's come before it. Just what did PS2/XB/GC that was exceptionally "next gen" to their launch titles aside from graphics and the other traits (AI, physics, et al) that get incrementally enhanced over time and get a dramatic jump between generations?
Nintendo's machines don't fall into this the same way, but that's because they have been building in features that add different twists to gameplay and promoting them to the public to high heaven, so what the mass market expects from them is different than normal. With DS and Revolution, the main question will be "can they deliver" on what they promise? Their games, appropriately, will be treated with a bit more "next gen software" expectation than the others.
The PSP delivers more features as well, but those are basically media-centric and not everything will be tapped at launch. (People don't seem to expect much more than a taste of a system at launch, and at least one good game to obsess over while they wait for more.) They do expect to see the "vision of the future" though, even if it's not reflected in the premiere titles. With the PSP I think people expect basically as much as they did from the PS2/XB/GC, and what they'll expect from the PS3/XB2. Nintendo remains the wild card on anything too far outside the normal, and that could be very good or very bad for them. On that we'll just have to see.
I think Sony would be better off waiting till Fall '06 release and putting the time into the titles to make them better looking than x2. By that time 512 Xdr ram maybe more affordable too. So when they launch they can have an "X2 isnt next gen, this is next gen" type campaign. And have the titles that show it. If they launch early with few or crappy titles they'll basically be handing MS the #1 spot. This way all the pressure is on MS's launch and Sony can use the old hype machine to scare away the die hards. Only problem for sony I forsee is MS isn't Sega and what may have worked against Dreamcast may not against Xenon for 1 reason ..... MONEY. MS can afford to advertise and pimp xenon in ways Sega never could.
I predict an early Xenon win till late 2007 or early 2008 when ps3 will surpass it in number of consoles sold. By that time early Xenon adopters will start picking up ps3 for the slightly beter gfx. (kinda like reverse xbox ps2 positions now) But im sure there will be classic games on both platforms...
I predict an early Xenon win till late 2007 or early 2008 when ps3 will surpass it in number of consoles sold. By that time early Xenon adopters will start picking up ps3 for the slightly beter gfx. (kinda like reverse xbox ps2 positions now) But im sure there will be classic games on both platforms...
