Just to add another side to the discussion about the Sony build quality (as inevitably, any thread concerning a new Sony product in these boards seems to end up on that eventually
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I've had several Sony products through the years.
I think my first Sony was a CD player 222ES something, bought it in the early 90's, cost about €600 then. I still use it listening CD's in my HiFi system, it has had no faults and still works like new. Previously I had a Technics CD players, had no problems with that either but I didn't use it but for couple of years.
My next Sony was PlayStation, bought it around EU launch (for christmas).
Now this has had some heavy use, I got into console gaming with that and played it almost daily until I replaced it with PS2. The PlayStation continued it's service in my brothers house until they also bought a PS2 last year. The PS did have some skipping during my last sessions with it and FFIX, but my brother never complained about any skipping, so I guess it must've been the game.
Then I had a Sony 25" (4:3) TV around '96-2002. Replaced it with a thomson (RCA in US) 52" RPTV, but it also had zero faults during it's service.
PS2 I bought on EU launch day. It has been working with only one or two crashes that I've not been able to repeat, and a couple of non-working DVD discs (a well known incompatibility problem). Works like a charm, and also the original DS2 controller is in working condition (although I replaced it because the buttons started to feel a bit "loose". The new controller on the other hand has had a slight problem of one of the shoulder buttons not always returning properly back to upper position)
Then I bought a STR-DB840QS AV receiver around 2001-2002...has been working without faults.
A Sony something VHS, working good.
A DVP-NS730P DVD player replaced my PS2 as the primary DVD player, I bought it sometime at 2002, no problems yet.
A Sony DSC T1 digital camera that was bought spring 2004, no problems...
A SonyEricsson P900 phone for my bf, at christmas 2003, no problemos.
...that should be all the Sony stuff I own/owned.
And each of them have been working perfectly.
One might think I'm a Sony funboi for owning that much Sony stuff, but I do have gear from other makes too... and I've had very little, if none problems with them either.
Guess I'm just lucky, or then I just don't abuse my gear like some people.
or maybe Sony sells different quality product in different countries, I wouldn't buy a SONI from a Malaysian street market
If I were to buy a new AV receiver, TV or DVD I would though seriously consider products from other makers (most likely Pioneer, Yamaha, H-K). At the time I bought my current gear, IMO they were best with their features/cost/quality/design when I shopped around. For example the AV receiver was a discontinuing model, that was much better than the new models that were replacing it.
pahcman said:
Yes i agree too. I see around me, the general reception towards Sony products are colder than ever. While they have no probs with how cool Sony designs are, but actually buying a Sony, hesitance step in, considering factors like better alternatives, pricing, build quality and forcing Sony format. You see that around you?
No, I really don't see it, except in some of the posts in this (and other) forums by people that are obviously heavily biased against Play Station.
The more "serious" media and real hobbyists are more rational, and I really don't see a "colder than ever reception" amongst them (witness the many awards by EISA (European Imaging and Sound Association) where Sony Wins 4 2004/2005 EISA Awards - More than any other company, Technical Image Press Association (TIPA), DIWA (Digital Imaging Websites Association), The exhibitions (E3 etc), the press reviews and consumer adoption (do sales numbers tell
only that Sony is teh mastah hyP3R!)
Back to gaming, it is found that newer revisions of PS2, Sony start using "economical" parts like the laser coil which are more prone to overvolt and burn out. I guess that another "advantage" of in house, you can output parts aggressively, yet also know which corners to cut.
So now it is no longer the launch gear :? Are you now saying that Sony uses even worse quality than at launch, wasn't it supposed to be the launch quality that sucked