I presume that's not the same as on standby though, and how many folk are going to have the console powered on doing nothing?
Playing Dirty - Greenpeace dismantles PS3, 360 and Wii
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DeadlyNinja
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Considering who was testing the systems, I'm guessing they don't know how to play the games.
Blackraven
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Does anybody even pay attention to these 'elitist' green groups (Greenpeace and Sierra Club) in this day of age???
Indeed. I'm really not sure why companies don't analyze the functional situations. "On and doing nothing" doesn't mean much if it automatically goes idle after a few minutes of un-use. Idle power consumption plus the time it takes to go idle, however... That puts in a little more context. If a console won't go idle in certain situations (on their store, deep in submenus, etc.) it's good to point that out as a warning, giving the comparative power consumption if you do.
Hell, it'd even be useful for ME to know, as I've forgotten just what the heck my PS3 normally does. Folding has made me callous...
Hell, it'd even be useful for ME to know, as I've forgotten just what the heck my PS3 normally does. Folding has made me callous...
Based on the responses of this thread, I think they do to a certain extent. It is the issue on hand that is important anyway. ALL vendors need to address it seriously because the effect is cummulative.
Why do vendors need to address it when consumers don't? How many people do you know who have selected against a piece of CE gear because it has high power consumption? Who picked a 40" TV over a 60£ because power consumption was lower? Or chose a Wii over a PS3, or a small laptop over a powerful tower, because of energy use?
Isn't the above reason why a vendor need to address it first so that the "foolish" consumers don't have to ? Even if we start a parallel effort, the larger mass (mess ?) will take longer time to educate and enforce.
Same problem though. Will a vendor refuse to stock a (popular) item just because it has energy consumption? Enrgy consumption is way, way down on people's priorities. Money is much higher, so if the cost of ownership of a high consumption item is noticeably higher, that can be used to discourage folk from purchasing. This is generally enforced through taxation though, as running costs aren't normally considered in purchases. There are white goods where people do look for high efficiency ratings, but I don't think they'd choose Product A over Product B if A has lower consumption and B has other features they want.
I think these sorts of releases aren't with any specific target in mind. They're just keep pushing that green agenda and keep folk thinking about it instead of forgetting. The headlines and commentaries are suitably sensationalist for this purpose. PS3 using 5x more power than a fridge?! Well, check the table. In Standby, it uses less power than XB360 or Wii - a negligible amount. So the only concern then is how much power it uses in use, and at that point no-one really cares, 'coz they're using it!
And what's the 'yearly cost'? On and in use 100% of the time for a year? That's a relevant figure for people Folding 24/7, but doesn't help determine the expense of a console in real terms.
I would love it if companies addressed power consumption as a priority. I certainly don't get why PS3 is some darned hot when idling. What happened to all that power-saving tech being talked about prior to launch? But whatever we want, fact is the market doesn't much care at the moment.
I think these sorts of releases aren't with any specific target in mind. They're just keep pushing that green agenda and keep folk thinking about it instead of forgetting. The headlines and commentaries are suitably sensationalist for this purpose. PS3 using 5x more power than a fridge?! Well, check the table. In Standby, it uses less power than XB360 or Wii - a negligible amount. So the only concern then is how much power it uses in use, and at that point no-one really cares, 'coz they're using it!
And what's the 'yearly cost'? On and in use 100% of the time for a year? That's a relevant figure for people Folding 24/7, but doesn't help determine the expense of a console in real terms.
I would love it if companies addressed power consumption as a priority. I certainly don't get why PS3 is some darned hot when idling. What happened to all that power-saving tech being talked about prior to launch? But whatever we want, fact is the market doesn't much care at the moment.
Darn them elitist people. Who do they think they are being elitist. Gadzooks!
I am glad groups do this stuff, otherwise consumers cannot make an informed decision if they do happen to care.
Consumer awareness of these problems will take time although recent events have triggered a new level of interests.
Until green movement becomes a mandate, it is always the vendor's choice/responsibility to ensure that they product is environmentally sound. As a consumer, I am simply voicing that every vendor should try to cut down their power consumption. If they can't do it now, do it asap so that I can migrate to the more efficient model when the time is right. That is all.
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