oh SH*T, Photos of NV35 and prelim benchies!!!!!

I wouldn't count on it being much faster than the 9800 Pro at comparable IQ.

MuFu.

 

What exactly are you saying here...

 

Possibly the FSAA is STILL the same old ordered grid as it has been since nv20?

Sigh if it is

 

Well it's pretty obvious now that it doesn't use the fan from a 5800 (non-Ultra) and uses a centrifugal unit instead... like the 5800 Ultra. I might be wrong here, but I believe they need to spin pretty fast to be effective due to having a small blade area and radial flow pattern.

I like the offset fan design but surely such a system would be more effective if the HS was enclosed?

MuFu.

 

I have one of these baby's too, I'm just having a tough time pulling it out of my ass... so far it seems to be a bit loud, as well

 

http://www.warp2search.net/article.php?sid=12165&mode=thread&order=0

 

Actually no, it's pretty silent comparing to FlowFX.

 

No...NO..... NOOO! I'm not gona go there....... even though... well, NO! I'm just not!

 

Sorry yeah - not sure quite what I was thinking. Maybe one of the 3rd party boards threw me off. Either way... some pretty schitzo posts from m00f, LOL.

Well the non-Ultra HS/fan unit is supposedly "pretty silent" compared with the FlowFX, but according to many parties it is still intrusively noisy and has a constant ultra high-pitched ESC whine. Is it any different from that?

MuFu.

 

"3. I like to support good enginnering. Making a card that needs a HUGE heatsink and fan to compete with another card with a regular size one is not good enginnering. Ever wonder how even the R300 would pown this card with the same coolong? "

I buy a card based upon picture quality, FPS performance, quietness, and value. I suggest that other reasons may be based on the "loyalism" you apparently deride.

 

Agree with the above poster. Taking up two slots should be a non-issue for most people, as the PCI slot next to the AGP is rarely used. In fact I have not come across one mobo where I could use the slot next to the AGP.

 

/snicker at martrox... i know what you were going to say, i constructed the statement to make you think it

 

ExtremeTech has some interesting performance speculation.

 

Some websites already have NV35 boards and, hence, results of its performance.

 

Not entirely accurate, IMO. ATi still has some latitude with the .13u process. They could put out a significantly faster core for the R350 chip this fall while Nvidia is obviously already pushing the speed boundaries of current lithography. And I can see them doing just that for the fall OEM refresh.

 

The first one is the key point really. Far too many people have been saying they've been disappointed with the published/leaked 3DMark score, since they were expecting some huge, 200% increase in performance. The NV35 will, overall, basically match the R350, winning in a couple of areas. Nothing more... Seems some people have gotten "Next Gen" mixed up with "Refresh" - The performance increases aren't the same!

The second point is speculation on his part, since (as it stands now) it's scheduled to tape out in 2 months. If that target can be met, there really is no reason they can't get it out by Year's end - Unless they need 4 or 5 respins, a la NV30 of course

 

I'm guessing ATI will release Loci around October. Just a guess, though.
On the plus side for nVidia, the NV40 will be launched at about the same time as Loci hits the retail shelves - if they're lucky. If they're unlucky, there might be one or two months of difference.

BTW, the NV40 doesn't use GDDR3. It'll use next-gen GDDR2.


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