oh SH*T, Photos of NV35 and prelim benchies!!!!!
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Reverend said:
Rev, despite having read your edit comment I would just point out that the 43.45 drivers are in fact the public version on nVidias site (dating March 27).
Beyond that, yes, it might be a delicate situation for Dave to mention those errors, but I think that the community here can handle it just fine.
Maybe the molex extension they provide has a right-angled connector?
Hmm... I was expecting them to use the HS/fan from the 5800 (non-Ultra), although I guess that wouldn't make much sense from a visual point of view. I bet that fan is still pretty loud when cranked up - does the design suggest that to anybody else?
Target was ~25% faster overall than NV30 so it looks like they'll just about make that with the help of Det 50. I hope nobody is *too* suprised when the benchmarks are released - it's crazy to think that NV35 will be anything other than a considerable improvement over NV30, both in terms of performance and availability.
As for the "lite" version... could NV36 be a downclocked NV35 with a 128-bit memory interface?! I can see them being able to get that out by July if it tapes out this month.
MuFu.
Hmm... I was expecting them to use the HS/fan from the 5800 (non-Ultra), although I guess that wouldn't make much sense from a visual point of view. I bet that fan is still pretty loud when cranked up - does the design suggest that to anybody else?
Target was ~25% faster overall than NV30 so it looks like they'll just about make that with the help of Det 50. I hope nobody is *too* suprised when the benchmarks are released - it's crazy to think that NV35 will be anything other than a considerable improvement over NV30, both in terms of performance and availability.
As for the "lite" version... could NV36 be a downclocked NV35 with a 128-bit memory interface?! I can see them being able to get that out by July if it tapes out this month.
MuFu.
This looks like a very interesting board. I suspect it's the top of the line PCB with active termination, etc. The PS seems quite beefy, too. It appears that the molex socket may also be used in the regular 5800 orientation. The RAM layout is as per Mufu, as well as the speculation about an external TMDS for "dual-link". The offset centrifugal fan also negates the "dead spot" effect of placing the fan over the centre of the ASIC. What a difference a n5 revision change makes...
Evildeus said:
I must admit I'm not sure, but I'd be very, very surprised it this hold any truth.
I just think texturing/FP are decoupled, and that means nVidia can now *freely* use FP every 4 instructions - maybe they're benefiting from that to increase quality a little too at the same time.
Uttar
I think Digit Life and ExtremeTech do for certain. Probably all the large sites (Anandtech, THG, [H] etc) and most of the big mags as well, to be honest. nVnews are under NDA but I don't know whether they have a board or not yet.
John Carmack's probably had one for a while.
MuFu.
John Carmack's probably had one for a while.
MuFu.
Why I wont buy that card:
1. Too big, takes 2 PCI slots.
2. Theres a better card in the market that I can buy right now: R9800Pro
3. I like to support good enginnering. Making a card that needs a HUGE heatsink and fan to compete with another card with a regular size one is not good enginnering. Ever wonder how even the R300 would pown this card with the same coolong?
This doesn't look a lot different than the Nv30 release. Points in common:
1. Marchitecture(and stupid may I add?): UltraShadow(sounds like something you would say in a joke), cineFX2(wtf?).
2. Again needs bigger/noisier cooling to compete with an existing product.
3. Uses next generation manufacturin and still does not deliver a sustantial performance lead(on top of the bigger fan).
4. Bigger/more complex PCB and manufacturing costs than existing products(can care less, but ask the manufacturers, maybe they care).
5. Anounced early trying to slow the compeeting product sales.
I think, and only think since I dont know for sure, this video card is for the nVidia loyalist. But people who want the best performance and quality, will stick to ATI for now, at least until the next generation cards come out. On top of that, ATI might have an answer for this chip called de 9900Pro, so who knows?
Although I like the current ATI card better, I hope this card kicks the 9800Pro in performance at least, that was I can a cheaper one soon.
1. Too big, takes 2 PCI slots.
2. Theres a better card in the market that I can buy right now: R9800Pro
3. I like to support good enginnering. Making a card that needs a HUGE heatsink and fan to compete with another card with a regular size one is not good enginnering. Ever wonder how even the R300 would pown this card with the same coolong?
This doesn't look a lot different than the Nv30 release. Points in common:
1. Marchitecture(and stupid may I add?): UltraShadow(sounds like something you would say in a joke), cineFX2(wtf?).
2. Again needs bigger/noisier cooling to compete with an existing product.
3. Uses next generation manufacturin and still does not deliver a sustantial performance lead(on top of the bigger fan).
4. Bigger/more complex PCB and manufacturing costs than existing products(can care less, but ask the manufacturers, maybe they care).
5. Anounced early trying to slow the compeeting product sales.
I think, and only think since I dont know for sure, this video card is for the nVidia loyalist. But people who want the best performance and quality, will stick to ATI for now, at least until the next generation cards come out. On top of that, ATI might have an answer for this chip called de 9900Pro, so who knows?
Although I like the current ATI card better, I hope this card kicks the 9800Pro in performance at least, that was I can a cheaper one soon.
Well obviously there plenty of people covertly breaking the NDA and giving out stock 'tips' to associates as 62million shares of Nvidia have traded today. Almost like Nvidia planned to give out these cards around earnings time.
I would imagine the Nv35 will be the top performer by a good margin.
I would imagine the Nv35 will be the top performer by a good margin.
