I don't like it, it doesn't work for me, it offers no advantage over a gamepad for me.
Official E3 Microsoft Conference Thread 2010
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Here's a watchable version of Dance Central, I'd say that improves things a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTYtH28esTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTYtH28esTg
MS has already talked about bundling Kinect with every 360 sold when it launches. What you can expect is Arcades and Elites to disappear as supply is burnt through. Then there will just be a $299 Slim on the shelf until November. In November, instead of a price drop you'll see a Slim+Kinect Bundle hit shelves, at the $299 price point, possibly higher. And you'll have Kinect sold alone at $150-$200.
Awesome ! It looks like a killer app. My kid and wife dance with each other all the time !
Some day, with an advanced 3D camera capture, we will be able to dance together with the stars.
This would be perfect. Esp. the $300 bundle. I'm gonna try to exhibit self control and wait for the Kinect bundle. The new iphone will hopefully satisfy my new toy urges for now
yea, if I were smart I would chose the iPhone 4 over this ....but hmmm
who says only "hardcore" watch the event online? who are these hardcore anyway? also, don't underestimate the 40 million users who could just buy the peripheral and some of those whose wives may be sitting in the room with them as they say "hey look honey, this would be great fun for us, no?"
Nah, MS has confirmed the Arcade at $200 lives on, just will take a while to filter in while current Arcade sales are exhausted.
They are ditching names though, no more Arcade, Elite etc, they're just Xbox 360's differentiated by storage size now.
I dont think Wii's market share is 50%...probably close to 1/3 at best. The only place they probably even approach 50% share anymore is hardware, even that is slipping, the days of Wii beating PS3 and 360 combined in NPD seem over forever.
The fact is the HD consoles, especially when combined, have been trumping Wii pretty handily for a while now, especially in software. How many Wii games ever chart #1 anymore? Only a handful of the same old first party Wii games and Just Dance chart at all.
To summarize that I posted that UK top 40 weekly chart recently, where there was a total of 31 HD twin games in the top 40 versus 6 Wii games. It might conceivably be even worse if you combined sales of all the multiplatform HD twin games, rather than splitting their sales out by platform.
Wii still has strength, but it has definitely decreased.
That's why I sometimes wonder if the Kinect and Move efforts are misguided to start.
Because only people actually invested in videogames even care about E3. Major news networks have 15 second blurbs on it (interestingly, BBC's makes the videogame industry look doomed). Hell, I have a bunch of friends and colleagues who are into videogames, but the World Cup going on right now is a few million times more important, they don't even know or care E3 is happening.
Sure, I actually was considering them. If MS can sell to those 360 owners who are actually married, that's terrific for them. But MS doesn't really need help selling software to 360 owners, what they seem to want is a new install-base, the Wii's install-base, and selling to existing 360 owners doesn't seem like the way to accomplish that.
Kinda true, but to put things into context, NSMB Wii just outsold MW2 on all platforms combined.
Based on this video @ 2:40 [gt]101403[/gt]
He says as far as I interpret it that the 250GB version has the Kinect port but the Arcade does not. So based upon that fact I expect:
Xbox 360 250GB Kinect bundle $299
Xbox 360 No HDD $149 with no Wifi/Kinect port
Kinect standalone $99
That way they lower their cost of entry, keep Kinect with the higher margin 250GB SKU and still give an easy upgrade for new HDD less/old Xbox 360s to update. Also it means you can buy an Arcade + Kinect for less than the price of a bundled one if you don't want a HDD.
He says as far as I interpret it that the 250GB version has the Kinect port but the Arcade does not. So based upon that fact I expect:
Xbox 360 250GB Kinect bundle $299
Xbox 360 No HDD $149 with no Wifi/Kinect port
Kinect standalone $99
That way they lower their cost of entry, keep Kinect with the higher margin 250GB SKU and still give an easy upgrade for new HDD less/old Xbox 360s to update. Also it means you can buy an Arcade + Kinect for less than the price of a bundled one if you don't want a HDD.
disagree... you are being myopic. there are tons of buyers who don't want a wii but think this full body and voice activated stuff is actually more adult, yet fun and not geeky like holding a wand/controller is.
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A lot of the appeal of the Wii is software, not waving the wand.
Can motion-controlled games be big hits without characters like Mario and Zelda? Nintendo did it with Wii Sports but a lot of third-party Wii games didn't sell in big numbers.
Maybe this generation is tired of waving that wand or just waving in general and they want to sit back on the couch again (and use the iPad).
Can motion-controlled games be big hits without characters like Mario and Zelda? Nintendo did it with Wii Sports but a lot of third-party Wii games didn't sell in big numbers.
Maybe this generation is tired of waving that wand or just waving in general and they want to sit back on the couch again (and use the iPad).
I think as others may have already said, opening up Kinect to indie devs is not so much to about discovering new tech, but more about discovering new uses for it. It's the perfect peripheral for that because there are so many undiscovered uses for it out there, so they need to get it out there to everyone asap.
I'm here
There's really no point posting about Kinect on forums because the hardcore didn't get it back then, they don't get it now, and they still won't get it in the future. The fact that people still bring up stuff like lag shows that they don't get it. Microsoft is doing exactly what they need to do and targeting exactly who they need to target with Kinect. I don't expect the hardcore to ever figure it out but it's like I've always said, that's a good thing since Kinect has nothing to do with them anyways. Seriously, if you really didn't see any potential for hit games with the non gamers in the demonstrations then there really isn't much more to say. The only wildcard left is price which they could mess up, but aside from that so far they are executing as they should.There are many answers to this, but one could be the legions of guys that want a 360 but can't buy one because their wives don't let them. Now then can show them the Kinect apps to get an excuse to buy one. There are quite a few guys out there in that predicament by the way.
Zune Music coming to Xbox? Oooh. Hopefully it supports buying a la carte & Zune Pass. Video Kinect looked neat. The Bing bar at the bottom is no web browser, but it's getting closer. . I don't see myself doing a lot of video chat, but it would be neat to see how that works.
Of the core games, MGS Rising looked really cool. Loved the cutting. Anybody know how they're doing that? Many years ago it was suggested that 3D mipmaps could be used for that, but I doubt it's that complex.
Gears 3 looked cool. Probably get it, but not right away. Will wait for it to drop to about $20 used like Gears 2. Halo Reach is still a preorder for a midnight launch. But probably going for the cheap one this time. Trying to save money to get Kinect. Still, space combat!!
As for Kinect I wasn't too excited initially due to lack of titles, but now after seeing a few launch titles I'm excited for Kinectimals & Kinect Adventures(the most). The wife & kid loved those as welll. But the kid liked Joy Ride & Star Wars the most. The wife loved Kinectimals the most but also liked Dance Central & Your Shape too. It looks we'll be getting it, if the price is right. We'll have to wait & see.
BTW, what happen to Milo & Kate?
Tommy McClain
Of the core games, MGS Rising looked really cool. Loved the cutting. Anybody know how they're doing that? Many years ago it was suggested that 3D mipmaps could be used for that, but I doubt it's that complex.
Gears 3 looked cool. Probably get it, but not right away. Will wait for it to drop to about $20 used like Gears 2. Halo Reach is still a preorder for a midnight launch. But probably going for the cheap one this time. Trying to save money to get Kinect. Still, space combat!!
As for Kinect I wasn't too excited initially due to lack of titles, but now after seeing a few launch titles I'm excited for Kinectimals & Kinect Adventures(the most). The wife & kid loved those as welll. But the kid liked Joy Ride & Star Wars the most. The wife loved Kinectimals the most but also liked Dance Central & Your Shape too. It looks we'll be getting it, if the price is right. We'll have to wait & see.
BTW, what happen to Milo & Kate?
Tommy McClain
That blows my guesses out of the water. Thanks for the heads up on the link. Have to rethink how they'll do it now. Crazy that the $150 price is a temp price drop. Maybe they are waiting to see what the other 2 guys announce?
Tommy McClain
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