nVnews shenanigans.

Discussion in 'Graphics and Semiconductor Industry' started by digitalwanderer, Apr 4, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Razor04

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2003
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    0
    I hate nForceMan. That guy constantly starts flame wars and calls anyone that looks and something objectively or that doesn't have the same preferences as him a fan boy. I am especially peeved that they just let him go on and on without any question because of his preference. He pushed me over the top the other day and being the mature one I didn't reply to his post...I did however report it. Do you think the mods did anything about the post? reply to me? or even warn nForceMan? Nope... Needless to say I have just about lost it and the next time I don't think I will be able to hold me temper back against that guy. Either that or I will just delete my account there...along with all my posts or something. The tone has definately changed over the past few months and not for the better. Since then I find myself visiting objective unbiased sites like Beyond3D a lot more than I visit there. What would I do without good old B3D? :)

    On a side note...does this board remove any references to fanboys? If I have f a n b o y (remove the spaces) it gets removed from my post...but if I seperate it into two words it doesn't. hehe Automatic Fan Boy Repellant :lol: Now there is a good concept. 8)
     
  2. nelg

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    1,557
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    Toronto
    I am surprised that Skuzzy posts there.
     
  3. digitalwanderer

    digitalwanderer Dangerously Mirthful
    Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2002
    Messages:
    18,992
    Likes Received:
    3,532
    Location:
    Winfield, IN USA
    Does he still? He joined up to EB a while back and I thought he did so because he was tired of putting up with the BS over at nVnews.

    It was around the time they totally dissed John R if I'm recalling correctly.
     
  4. 3dilettante

    Legend Alpha

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2003
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    4,799
    Location:
    Well within 3d
    I'm not seeing the big deal here. The news entry indicated that MikeC had gotten a new system with an A64. He made a rough comparison with his old system, which he gave to his son.

    I'm not seeing any shennanigans here if he's just saying his new system (not just processor, not just video card) is faster than his old one.

    It's not like it's a full on formal review with supposedly hyper-accurate testing results.

    I don't really go often enough to Nvnews to know anything about any other alleged bias.
     
  5. MaxPower_NVN

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2003
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    0
    @Digi...

    Good grief man...slow day for you or something? Too cold yet to go outside and do some actual fishing? What is it?

    Have you read Mike's post addressing the knee jerkers out there?
    http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=294945&postcount=6

    As for the tired conspiracy theory stuff...erm (not sure why I bother)...one guy was gone long before the other and last time I checked |JuiceZ| is still with us. :roll:

    edit: spelling
     
  6. PatrickL

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2003
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    13
  7. Quitch

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    1,521
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    UK
    I don't see any mention of a "conspiracy", what I see is people in this thread noting that this comparison is

    a) meaningless

    b) part of what they see as a decline in the standards at nvnews

    Why can a site not be knocked, without people complaining about all the conspiracy theories? I too think that the nvnews forums have gone downhill recently, which is a shame, because it was less than a year ago everyone was commenting on what a good job they were making of handling the nVidia situation.
     
  8. digitalwanderer

    digitalwanderer Dangerously Mirthful
    Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2002
    Messages:
    18,992
    Likes Received:
    3,532
    Location:
    Winfield, IN USA
    I don't fish, it tends to bore the living daylights out of me. As for "slow day", I've just been swapping around food from my old refrigerator to me new one and I just got done manhandling the bloody old fridge out to the garage by myself (down steps, FUN! :roll: ) and I'm just now taking a break at 4pm to eat lunch before facing down me kids for evening dinner/bathy/bedtime.

    Life is NOT slow!

    Why didn't Chambers post that addendum on his frontpage if he was so interested in getting the truth out there Max? Huh?
     
  9. MaxPower_NVN

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2003
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    0
    I say conspiracy because of the allusions that we are biased, poor word association on my part perhaps but you get the idea. There is a select minority of people that find it fashionable to lob rocks at the nV News glass house and I just don't get it (well I do but it's not worth acknowledging). As far as I know, you have not/will not see our staff doing the same towards other sites.
     
  10. MaxPower_NVN

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2003
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    0
    Not slow for me either. I'm watching my two boys today (I know you can relate) ;).

    I don't know, perhaps it is because the majority of people don't see it as you do (check the responses in that thread). You could always PM him and ask him for yourself.
     
  11. digitalwanderer

    digitalwanderer Dangerously Mirthful
    Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2002
    Messages:
    18,992
    Likes Received:
    3,532
    Location:
    Winfield, IN USA
    Just a neat observation Max, but did you notice how everyone on your site seems to see nothing wrong with it and don't think it's any big deal but that everyone not on your site seems to think it's another one someone tried to slip under the wire to make nVidia look better?

    Just an observation for you to think about, please do. (And I'm already dealing with Vamp on this over at EB so can we try and keep this one civil please? )

    I don't see the point in PMing Chambers anymore, last time I did he just told me I was wrong and it wasn't any of my concern as it was a staff issue. :(
     
  12. volt

    Regular

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2002
    Messages:
    365
    Likes Received:
    3
    I can only imagine Dave's comment:

    Oh god, nvnews discussion again. DIE!

    :)
     
  13. 3dilettante

    Legend Alpha

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2003
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    4,799
    Location:
    Well within 3d
    I honestly don't see it as being a big deal. It looked to me that it was just a personal blurb, not exactly what I would bother putting on a news site, but nothing to get excited over.

    It just doesn't seem that important.
     
  14. Evildeus

    Veteran

    Joined:
    May 24, 2002
    Messages:
    2,657
    Likes Received:
    2
    Well i don't know but for me an Ati/Nv/etc site is by essence biased. So, i don't really see what's your point. :?:
     
  15. digitalwanderer

    digitalwanderer Dangerously Mirthful
    Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2002
    Messages:
    18,992
    Likes Received:
    3,532
    Location:
    Winfield, IN USA
    Who said I had a point, is that like a requirement now or something? :|
     
  16. Sazar

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2003
    Messages:
    234
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Between Austin and Tampa
    digi... is it in your genes to start shit and spread fud all over the internet?

    or do you just do this to pass the time? same with volt @ EB..

    GET THE F*CKING FACTS BEFORE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A BLITHERING IDIOT...

    if you don't want to post somewhere or don't like a particular boards line of thinking fair enough... however the unhealthy infatuation you and volt have about everything nvnews just seems bizarre... I can respect JR for maintaining his distance when he has said he would... and I respect tim for being a sane voice in the middle of the volt/digi/scott threads bashing the site...

    BTW... what mike wrote that you never even mentioned here...

    please point out to me exactly WHERE it is he makes any mention of the graphics card? please also point out how exactly this has become something concerning nvnews again?

    IF you don't like the place... fine... don't post there... but obviously a few people who are no longer posting there somehow seem to have taken it upon themselves to post FUD... and unfortunately seeing your big post count a lot of other people on this board and others take your word as fact... UNFORTUNATELY this is not the case...

    I will reiterate... you are basically a trouble maker @ this point in time... we don't need this thread... we don't need the thread on EB though that is your domain and you can do whatever the hell it is you want over there...

    I fail to see EB bashing threads or b3d bashing threads @ nvnews... why is that?

    IF you feel vindicated by spreading volt's propaganda all over the place perhaps you should change the title in your sig to DIGITAL WANDERER : volt's color commentator...

    further...

    the fact that most of the people who have commented have not even bothered to read the rest of the stuff and just jumped to a conclusion just makes me sad... to those who actually bothered to dbl check the facts and have posted the same... its appreciated...

    keep in mind that nvnews has now been bashed for some team members leaving (thats an internal matter between them and mike... non of my business)... for having crappy boards and board members (I do take offense to this as I think people on b3d would if the board was bashed on other forums).. and for using vb3 (wtf? what the hell does this have to do with anything? vb3 has excellent features that if utilised properly enhance user experience... our boards [not talking about nvnews here]have been using vb3 rc's for ages and its fabulous) among other reasons...

    I can only hope that someday these ludicrous posts that have nothing more than someone's personal agenda against someone else will end... and digi will consider stopping his FUD... :roll:
     
  17. MUYA

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2004
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    How you can make a mountain out of a molehill is beyond me. Mike's post was reflection of his change from a Athlon XP system to Athlon64 system which clearly he was excited about.

    True it isn't an apples to apples comparision but to get your nickers in a twist about such trivial matters is really nothing but reactionary at best. It is not even a review as such but surely a conspiracy can be imagined by those with the most imaginative of minds
     
  18. T2k

    T2k
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Slope & TriBeCa (NYC)
  19. T2k

    T2k
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Slope & TriBeCa (NYC)
    Digi just didn't understand why it should've been done this way - and then suddenly everybody flashed out his own NVN-problem, mostly regarding its ridiculously primitive forum
    Not a surprise, actually...
     
  20. ragejg

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2003
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Finger Lakes of Hell, NY
    ...

    post-count-increasing blither...

    ...

    I'm sickened anytime criticism is brought up in this manner regarding ANY site, as the attacks are usually indirect and pot-shot-ish...

    Now, about nvnews... can any of you accept the fact that the site IS legitimately run, with good intentions, and like any other site, experiences staff changes that alter the way the site is run? And sometimes it is honestly difficult to duplicate the feel that existed with "the older crew" ... Jeebus, the core crew is really trying to keep things informative, unbiased, friendly and helpful, myself included...

    If there are issues that affect the balance of the site, the rest assured, Mike, Juice, Muya, myself, and the rest of the crew are aware of it, and are working on a solution...

    Do you all think that the image you're percieving is some intentionally hostile motive of the staff? C'mon... we just like the rest of the community intend to maintain an informative and helpful site and forum member base.

    ...

    Sorry, I'm not gonna dip into the fodder in this post, I see that plenty of you already have.
     
Loading...
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Beyond3D has been around for over a decade and prides itself on being the best place on the web for in-depth, technically-driven discussion and analysis of 3D graphics hardware. If you love pixels and transistors, you've come to the right place!

    Beyond3D is proudly published by GPU Tools Ltd.
Loading...