NVIDIA's Last Minute Effort - 6850

[Natoma]

FarCry Benchmarks with a renamed FarCry.exe (-> FartCry.exe :?) over at chip.de with 61.11, the one at the top is the FartCry.exe one.

Here we go......

Christ Nvidia.

 

[Stryyder]

Jinx

 

[Richard]

But before we "go", let's just try to calm down and think that application-specific optimisations aren't EVIL. They can be if the quality is dropped (or if they are aimed at synthethic benchmarks IMO). If when using FartCry.exe the image quality increases then go ahead and rip nVidia to shreds, otherwise let's all calm down a bit and wait for more details.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Wow something smells rotten in Denmark

I thought it was a German site? :|

 

[FUDie]

FarCry Benchmarks with a renamed FarCry.exe (-> FartCry.exe :?) over at chip.de with 61.11, the one at the top is the FartCry.exe one.

Wow something smells rotten in Denmark

I'm pretty sure .de is Germany (Deutschland) and .dk is Denmark.

-FUDie

 

[carpediem]

Wow something smells rotten in Denmark

.de is germany

 

[Stryyder]

Sorry but I was quoting Hamlet not referring to the site origin.

Edit Link for those of you unfamiliar with the phrase.

http://www.bartleby.com/59/6/somethingisr.html

 

[jimmyjames123]

61.11 and even 60.72 Forceware have so many significant FarCry bugs in them for the NV40 that it is not very fruitful comparing to ATI cards at all.

Interesting that renaming the executable caused a performance drop. Is this because the game defaults to general settings instead of the NV3x settings? Also, did they test this new executable with any other graphics cards, from NV or ATI?

 

[DemoCoder]

Would be interesting if they would show the numbers for all the cards for FartCry, not just 6800 Extreme.

I got an idea for app-detection. Nvidia's drivers should detect FarCry.exe and report an R300 DeviceID so that the game works properly until CryTek fixes their Device Detection.

 

[Natoma]

But before we "go", let's just try to calm down and think that application-specific optimisations aren't EVIL. They can be if the quality is dropped (or if they are aimed at synthethic benchmarks IMO). If when using FartCry.exe the image quality increases then go ahead and rip nVidia to shreds, otherwise let's all calm down a bit and wait for more details.

Mordenkainen,

We've been down this path before however. Nvidia already has a huge cloud over their company because of the cheats and "optimizations" they used with the NV3x generation. For their sake, you'd think they would stay away from something so blatant as exe naming.

The reason why this is a problem is because the level of trust in Nvidia's driver department is already sorely eroded due to their past shenanigans. And it's an even bigger problem because on its own, it looks like the 6800U is a pretty damn fine card. This just clouds the whole thing when it's unnecessary.

 

[Joe DeFuria]

Just echoing others: I'd like to see FartCry benched on other cards, and some inspections for image quality differences...

 

[digitalwanderer]

Sorry but I was quoting Hamlet not referring to the site origin.

I caught that, thus the winky.

Do any people here fluent in german know if that site says that by changing the name to FartCry if it clears up those "mysterious graphic anomolies" that people were having trouble with these new drivers?

If it does, oh boy!

 

[Eronarn]

Eronarn loads up the thread.

Eronarn reads the first page... typical stuff... hmm..

Eronarn goes to the last page... what's this... a graph?

Eronarn reads the graph.

...KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

Seriously though, this is awful. I can't believe they didn't learn their lesson... hell, I'd actually be willing to consider buying Nvidia if they'd just not cheat, even if their cards are not as good.

 

[hstewarth]

FarCry Benchmarks with a renamed FarCry.exe (-> FartCry.exe :?) over at chip.de with 61.11, the one at the top is the FartCry.exe one.

Here we go......

Christ Nvidia.

Isn't there a known bug in 6x.xx drivers related to FarCry.. I don't give any reliability on cheating issues before the card is actually in the store. There is know way to prove it. Also with out other information, it hard to tell if it is an even test.

Let's find out what realy happens once the card is released in stores and in peoples hands.

This issue smells like B.S. from a mile away...give me a break...

 

[Natoma]

Eronarn loads up the thread.

Eronarn reads the first page... typical stuff... hmm..

Eronarn goes to the last page... what's this... a graph?

Eronarn reads the graph.

...KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

 

[MuFu]

Wow something smells rotten in Denmark

I think it's Fart Cry.

There's a rumour brewing in Scuttlebutt City that this run of 10,000 NV40s for nV will be IBM's last for the company (at least in the foreseable future).

 

[digitalwanderer]

There's a rumour brewing in Scuttlebutt City that this run of 10,000 NV40s for nV will be IBM's last for the company (at least in the foreseable future).

Hey, that rumor is from yesterday!

So, is this starting to feel a little bit deja vuey to anyone else? :|

 

[Stryyder]

Wow something smells rotten in Denmark

I think it's Fart Cry.

There's a rumour brewing in Scuttlebutt City that this run of 10,000 NV40s for nV will be IBM's last for the company (at least in the foreseable future).

Yeah the Inquirer had something about that with the source being an internal ATI memo if you can believe it.....

 

[Joe DeFuria]

Wow something smells rotten in Denmark

I think it's Fart Cry.

/*rim shot*

 

[Natoma]

FarCry Benchmarks with a renamed FarCry.exe (-> FartCry.exe :?) over at chip.de with 61.11, the one at the top is the FartCry.exe one.

Here we go......

Christ Nvidia.

Isn't there a known bug in 6x.xx drivers related to FarCry.. I don't give any reliability on cheating issues before the card is actually in the store. There is know way to prove it. Also with out other information, it hard to tell if it is an even test.

Let's find out what realy happens once the card is released in stores and in peoples hands.

This issue smells like B.S. from a mile away...give me a break...

I'm sorry but I just don't trust Nvidia's driver department at this point in time. It took years for me to get my trust in ATI to a level where I'd contemplate purchasing one of their cards. 3 successive generations in fact. The 8500, then the 9700, then finally I acquiesced with the 9800 Pro.

Right now I trust Nvidia's driver department as much as I trusted ATIs during the Rage days. That is where my comment comes from.

Trust is hard won and easily lost. That much goes for anything in life.