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Could somebody please explain me why Charlie keeps insisting it's *both* G86 and G84, when it's abudantly clear it's only G86 but for both notebooks and desktops? (of course, for a wide variety of reasons it's much much less of a problem on the latter and the failure rate should be massively lower, although nearly certainly still higher than normal)
It's sad that for once he got a real story to run with, he doesn't even manage to get most of his story straight and keeps making a fool out of himself, while he could have used this whole thing in a much more reasonable way and gotten out of it with massively more credibility. Oh well, guess he just doesn't have the mindset for that kind of thing.
It's sad that for once he got a real story to run with, he doesn't even manage to get most of his story straight and keeps making a fool out of himself, while he could have used this whole thing in a much more reasonable way and gotten out of it with massively more credibility. Oh well, guess he just doesn't have the mindset for that kind of thing.
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Really, abundantly clear? How so
The fact is NVidia has just changed the way it manufactures its GPUs, here's an independent article saying exactly the same thing:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39045/135/
why would G84 be manufactured differently from G86?
Now it might be that G86 was the only G8x GPU to suffer the ignominy of being made cheaply with low-quality materials - if that's so then I guess you better come up with something concrete before calling Charlie stupid.
There's nothing abundantly clear about this. It is entertaining though.
Jawed
Really, abundantly clear? How so
Well, I dunno about "abundantly", but there are some indications in that direction. I just mentioned one of them. . . .Lenovo's T61p with the G84-based Quadro FX570 doesn't seem to be affected.
That NV is switching their whole lineup over to the new method is not necessarily evidence of anything other than not wanting to get burned a second time by the same issue.
Yeah, but he'll run with it anyways...that's why I lovers him so!
Yeah, but he'll run with it anyways...that's why I lovers him so!
He can be humorous, but that is about it. I find his articles fairly pathetic since they rely on being sensational instead of content to garner attention.
That's the Inq in a nutshell, regardless of who writes the articles. All one has to do is read their headlines to see that.
Just to clarify: Charlie clearly hates NV. My comment above had no bearing on this matter.
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I don't think it's quite so clear cut when there are laptops that have G84 in it on the extended warranty list (such as Dell XPS M1330). That can't be just goodwill.
That said though, it doesn't take a qualified shrink to see Charlie has other issues.
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I am under the impression that the 8400M GS in the M1330 is G86. Didn't NV decide to confuse the hell out of all of us with G84/G86 based card naming conventions?
Confusion over which model and codename is really hurting this thread. The G86M covers the 8400M model series, G84M covers the 8600M series. Confusing to say the least, but that is indeed the case. From what I can find the extended-GPU-only warranties only cover notebook series which could be configured to have a G86M GPU aka 8400M series. There is some overlap such as the Dell XPS M1530 can be configured with either a 8400M (G86M) or a 8600M (G84M), which is likely what is actually leading to people concluding more than G86M is bad.
8400M is the default tho (and $100 cheaper), so presumably a healthy majority of M1530 sold have the G86 chip in them.
Somebody really, really needs to be fired for coming up with that naming scheme!
I can't see why they should. Do you see many codenames such as "G84" or "G86" printed in product boxes or notebook spec sheets at the store ?
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