Nvidia Pascal Announcement

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  1. iMacmatician

    iMacmatician Regular

    From WCCFTech: "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Performance and Specifications Leaked – Performs Similar To A GTX 960, No Power Connector Required."

    If those numbers reflect gaming performance then that's about where I expected the 1050 Ti to end up.
     
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  2. Erinyes

    Erinyes Regular

    Yep..that was pretty much expected. A 768 SP part with a 30% clock boost is obviously going to be close to the old 1024 SP part. And it reduces power from about 120W to 75W. GP107 is going to be a great mobile chip.
     
  3. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus Regular

    Based on the relatively modest clocks for the 1050 Ti (for Pascal), I'm wondering if we'll see factory overclocked versions with 6-pin power connectors that add an "easy" 5-10% performance by only getting clocks up to Pascal standards. It looks like Nvidia cranked the clocks as high as possible while staying at/under 75W, but I figure it wouldn't be terribly difficult to go higher if you're no longer limited to 75W.
     
  4. -Sweeper_

    -Sweeper_ Newcomer

    GP107 Die

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  5. CarstenS

    CarstenS Legend Subscriber

    Still a 6-pin? Not good.
     
  6. -Sweeper_

    -Sweeper_ Newcomer

    Might be a custom board or ES, not sure. I trust the leaked specs I saw, and they don't mention 6-pin (for reference cards anyway).
     
  7. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus Regular

    There's got to be at least one SKU that is at/under 75W. GM107 was way too popular for Nvidia to miss that segment.

    I think the more interesting topic of speculation is whether all stock GP107 cards will be at/under 75W as some rumors suggest or if we'll see one at like 90W that gets to "let loose" and eek out all of the performance available. There's such a gap between the 460 and 470 that such a 90ishW GP107 part would probably go unchecked and be successful for Nvidia.
     
  8. AnarchX

    AnarchX Veteran

    Looks wider than the GDDR5 chip (12x14mm). So it could be a fake based on GM107 or GP107 is just really big (~160mm²) - low transistor density on 14nm or packed something more in (>6SMs, Test-CVA for devs - GK208-style).
     
  9. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member Legend

    It's supposed to be 16, not 14nm
     
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  10. Erinyes

    Erinyes Regular

    Yep there will definitely be some cards under 75W. It's the same as we saw with RX460. As you say that segment is very important for Nvidia and they even released a sub 75W GTX 950 to cater to it.
    Looks about the same or slightly smaller to me actually. With a quick look in paint I get a rough estimate of ~80% of the size of the GDDR5 chip or ~135mm2.
    AnarchX is right. It is on 14nm.
     
  11. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member Legend

    You mean they ditched TSMC for the lowend chips?
     
  12. Erinyes

    Erinyes Regular

    I would't say ditched but yes they have switched from TSMC. It's been reported in the press and also on this thread a few times.
     
  13. Razor1

    Razor1 Veteran


    If its on 14nm Samsung, GF shouldn't be having problems with their process.....

    Switch probably due to supply constraints.
     
  14. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member Legend

    Being part of the press I can only remember Samsung being confirmed to supply NVIDIA some chips, not any specifics, and personally I'd expect them to be Tegras rather than GP-anything. There was one Korean report about them being specifically GPUs, but without any actual sources, so I wouldn't count on it before some confirmation.
     
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  15. homerdog

    homerdog donator of the year Legend Subscriber

    Well this thing will kick the bootay of RX460.

    On another note, it's crazy the demand for these cards. The 1070 is still marked up and low on stock at Newegg.
     
  16. pharma

    pharma Veteran

    Microcenter has more realistic pricing for both 1070's & 1080's ... somewhat usual since they are about $10 - $20 more.
     
  17. flopper

    flopper Newcomer

    you know they cant make many cards atm the supply is strained.
    not selling much actually.
     
  18. Razor1

    Razor1 Veteran


    Apparently they weren't as supply strained as others though they are selling quite well, steam numbers show the same general trend as what the 970 had.
     
  19. pharma

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  20. Erinyes

    Erinyes Regular

    I cant give you a public source that confirms it but I can tell you that they are on 14nm. They aren't Tegras..all Tegras upto Xavier are still on TSMC.
    It will definitely give RX460 some good competition and AMD will have to release the full 16CU Polaris 11 to compete.
     
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