NVIDIA Kepler speculation thread

[lanek]

There's not so much to tweak if they dont really release a " new sku " with more SP of the GK104.. ( outside the called TitanLE GK110, but then you conflict with the price of actual Titan )

660TI = 670 ( outside memory config + rop ) .. They can hardly use the Boost 2.0 only for gain some few %. and on the same line, they cant too up the SP numbers.. or a 665TI will boat 680 SP numbers and a "675" become a full 680 .. whatever they call it 7xx or not.

My bet is they launch Titan LE ( in or outside the 700 series )) but i really doubt they can do anything under the Titan LE without a new sku, so i dont really see the point to call it " GTX780 " and so have the 700series of 670-680 renamed ). Seriously, there's allready many version of the 670-680 who run at high Turbo speed.. if this is just for bump the performance with higher turbo speed, they conflict themselves with 670-680 retail OC. without saying this mean high price or reduce price of the "initial Titan".

I dont really see a series 7 coming this way:

- 780 = TitanLE 650
- 770 = 680 + higher turbo speed ( So 680 retail overclocked ) ~ 7970ghz performance ( a bit higher )
- 760TI = 670 + higher turbo speed ( so 680 performance ) a bit under 7970Ghz performance.

Now if they have work a new sku derivate from GK110 .. with SP numbers in between .. thats another question.

 

[iMacmatician]

They could raise core clocks, but not by much before they get even more memory bandwidth bottlenecked. I doubt memory clocks will get any higher than 6 Gbps for GK104/GK106, so they're stuck there too. However, they could replace some or all of the parts with disabled memory controllers with parts without disabled memory controllers, that's a +50% or +33% bandwidth increase (and ROP increase) right there. Of course, that'll likely result in fewer parts but the addition of (at least) one GK110 part at the top can balance that out.

I do not expect any GK110 that is part of a numbered series (i.e. non-Titan) to have unlocked DP rate. If it weren't for the rumors claiming 5 GB memory for the "Titan LE"/"GTX 780" I would even expect it to have 2.5 GB memory.

 

[Blazkowicz]

Why didn't you give it to me instead of throwing?

How do you buy and install a 10-15 GB game? Do you wait all the way to download it from somewhere?

If you download at about 1MB/s without bad consequences (download cap, slowdown for web browsing and other uses) or unreliability (drops, getting 10x or 50x slower at certains times) then that kind of download is actually not a very big deal.

 

[Albuquerque]

:How do you buy and install a 10-15 GB game? Do you wait all the way to download it from somewhere?

Yeah, broadband here is getting better. I've set up QOS on my router to allow downloads from Steam to soak up as much as 3MB/sec of my WAN pipe; at that rate I can pull down a 15GB game in under two hours.

 

[jlippo]

How do you buy and install a 10-15 GB game? Do you wait all the way to download it from somewhere?

It's faster to download 15GB game than getting it from nearby store.

 

[UniversalTruth]

I have so many CDs and DVDs on which I keep my music collection, I have multiple games, support software, movies, etc. I don't want to get rid of the DVD-RW because it is also easier for me to install Windows using it instead of USB flash drive which have the bad habbit to attract viruses and cause multiple problems.

So, no, I would prefer to use DVD-RAM, and keep my HDD offloaded because I have noticed that the more things I put, the slower it becomes.

And also- yes, I would prefer to go to the store instead of doing everything online from home and turning me into the fat man/ and the other social disadvantages from being online instead of outside. No offence.

 

[RedVi]

For some people. I've come from a 5mb adsl "2" connection to 115mb fiber, when I have enough of my DL cap free, I do things like download a steamworks game that I bought retail and know I have the disc for somewhere but can't find quickly enough. Even Max Payne 3 at 29GB was done in just over an hour (speeds vary between 14MB/s and 1-5MB/s usually averaging around 8-10). So once more people are at these speeds it's definitely not an issue. Sure, it sucks for those who can't get such internet and I know how that feels, but it's becoming the best option for more and more people. Now we just need download limits to go away.

 

[keldor314]

Wrong thread >.<

 

[Nemo]

GTX Titan Ultra

lol, onechip Titan vs shit-cf-mode aka 7990 similar to 8800 Ultra vs shit-cf-mode aka 3870X2

 

[Alexko]

GTX Titan Ultra

lol, onechip Titan vs shit-cf-mode aka 7990 similar to 8800 Ultra vs shit-cf-mode aka 3870X2

For the small, small price of $1,499?

 

[iMacmatician]

Is it feasible to clock the memory above 6 Gbps (on a retail part)?

 

[UniversalTruth]

The funny or not so much thing is that they put insane impossible prices and then complain that the market is stagnant and people don't want their products...

By the way- why 1500 $? How much higher performance do we expect?

 

[Alexko]

The funny or not so much thing is that they put insane impossible prices and then complain that the market is stagnant and people don't want their products...

By the way- why 1500 $? How much higher performance do we expect?

Just a guess. Titan costs $1000, so something even bigger/meaner/faster would probably end up around $1500.

 

[tviceman]

Is it feasible to clock the memory above 6 Gbps (on a retail part)?

I'm sure Samsung or whoever makes and bins the memory chips could create a 6400-6600mhz effective bin (give or take) if they were asked / paid to do so. The feasibility part of it would be the cost to associated with creating such bin.

 

[lanek]

GTX Titan Ultra

lol, onechip Titan vs shit-cf-mode aka 7990 similar to 8800 Ultra vs shit-cf-mode aka 3870X2

Put that with a big big big "could" do it and " maybe " they will do it.

just the core speed is just impossible to achieve on Titan under +125% TDP ( 275W max and minimum fixed )

 

[lanek]

Is it feasible to clock the memory above 6 Gbps (on a retail part)?

Yes it is, but outside golden chips who clock higher with same voltage, you will need increase voltage and are out of specs out of initial specifications ( golden chips do 7000mhz without increase voltage and heat, but thoses are really golden chips ). And if cooled the right way, it dont even increase TDP. ( the temperature increase electric efficiency as the transistor are less releasing ion ) .

 

[DuckThor Evil]

just the core speed is just impossible to achieve on Titan under +125% TDP ( 275W max and minimum fixed )

As far as I can see, people are running them way higher than that at 106% and the fixed max is 265W.

 

[mczak]

Yes it is, but outside golden chips who clock higher with same voltage, you will need increase voltage and are out of specs out of initial specifications ( golden chips do 7000mhz without increase voltage and heat, but thoses are really golden chips ). And if cooled the right way, it dont even increase TDP. ( the temperature increase electric efficiency as the transistor are less releasing ion ) .

Samsung lists 7gbps gddr5 memory as mass production, so you'd think they could deliver it. I don't know if the memory controller of the nvidia chips is designed for that though.

 

[Cookie Monster]

They could give it a GTX690 style cooler and go all out I suppose (Higher TDP/Clocks + full GK110)?

 

[psolord]

GTX Titan Ultra

lol, onechip Titan vs shit-cf-mode aka 7990 similar to 8800 Ultra vs shit-cf-mode aka 3870X2

For saving 500 euros, I'll stick with my 7950 GE cfx thank you very much. It's silky smooth btw if you game properly ie with vsync enabled..