Nvidia GT200b rumours and speculation thread

But not all RV7xx GPUs have double-precision, so it's obviously significant enough to be worth chopping out.

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But not all RV7xx GPUs have double-precision, so it's obviously significant enough to be worth chopping out.

Umm, I thought all of them had it, except may be for igp's. I suppose the very low end parts don't have it.
 
But not all RV7xx GPUs have double-precision, so it's obviously significant enough to be worth chopping out.
Naturally, there is a cost assocaited with it, but even a small cost is one thats worthwhile when there is little benefit, especially for those types of parts. But look at RV670 and RV770 from R600...
 
Neither is fully compliant, though Nvidia's DP functionality seems to be closer.

The only architecture that currently seems have the option of being fully compliant is x86.
 
everyone know about this :

"If recent ForceWare driver releases are correct, NVIDIA is poised to rename existing GeForce 8,9 series GPUs once again. VR-Zone has uncovered new GeForce GTS, GeForce GT, and GeForce G GPUs, as well as new mobile parts.

According to the report, G92-based cards will be designated as GeForce GTS 150, while G94 cards will be named GeForce GT 130 and G96 GeForce GT 120. Finally, G98 GPUs will be sold as GeForce G100.

As you can see under the new designation NVIDIA will brand their high-end enthusiast parts as "GeForce GTX" while mainstream performance segment will be branded as "GeForce GTS". Mainstream cards will be sold as GeForce GT and finally entry-level cards will use the GeForce G designation.

No word on when the new renamed cards will hit retail, presumably NVIDIA's board partners will move as quickly as possible to sell existing GeForce 9800, 9600, 9500, 9400 cards first though."
 
Expreview has a picture of a 55nm GT200:
http://en.expreview.com/2008/12/02/the-worlds-first-image-of-55nm-gt200-exposed.html
"its production cycle happened during the 33rd week of this year (August 11th to 17th), only 5 weeks after G200-103-A2 which was manufactured in the 28th week. Therefore, obviously NVIDIA had prepared for a long time."

That seems quite awhile ago, inventory issues maybe or an earlier batch that didnt work out maybe?
Perhaps it's out there allready, but no one's taken the cooler of to find out. Didn't Jen-Hsun Huang say something like that, that they had been making 55nm chips for a while now?
 
Expreview has a picture of a 55nm GT200:
http://en.expreview.com/2008/12/02/the-worlds-first-image-of-55nm-gt200-exposed.html
"its production cycle happened during the 33rd week of this year (August 11th to 17th), only 5 weeks after G200-103-A2 which was manufactured in the 28th week. Therefore, obviously NVIDIA had prepared for a long time."

That seems quite awhile ago, inventory issues maybe or an earlier batch that didnt work out maybe?

Wow that is a collection of unsavory characters over there.
 
Perhaps it's out there allready, but no one's taken the cooler of to find out. Didn't Jen-Hsun Huang say something like that, that they had been making 55nm chips for a while now?

Could the chip photographed be from a tesla card? Also in the photograph can anyone see any component of known size so that a rough chip size could be guessed?

Wow that is a collection of unsavory characters over there.
The comments? That's just due to the cards been so expensive. When you buy a $500 card, its not solely for its intrinsic usefulness, its commodity value, part of the price is for having the best. Each buyer sub-consciously knows this and tries to extract the remaining value of owning the card by 'advertising' their ownership wherever possible. Think of it like a peacocks tail, or a sports car.

The other theory i heard that it was a form of capture bonding, the person felt abused by having to pay so much for the card and formed a loyalty to the abuser. Think child soldiers in africa.

Anyway ASPs seem to be going down, so as the cards approach their commodity values the fanboys will likely disappear as well. It's just about impossible to raise much of a discussion let alone a fight over the mid level or low end cards.

(Don't take the above explanations too seriously ;))
 
Could the chip photographed be from a tesla card? Also in the photograph can anyone see any component of known size so that a rough chip size could be guessed?


The comments? That's just due to the cards been so expensive. When you buy a $500 card, its not solely for its intrinsic usefulness, its commodity value, part of the price is for having the best. Each buyer sub-consciously knows this and tries to extract the remaining value of owning the card by 'advertising' their ownership wherever possible. Think of it like a peacocks tail, or a sports car.

The other theory i heard that it was a form of capture bonding, the person felt abused by having to pay so much for the card and formed a loyalty to the abuser. Think child soldiers in africa.

Anyway ASPs seem to be going down, so as the cards approach their commodity values the fanboys will likely disappear as well. It's just about impossible to raise much of a discussion let alone a fight over the mid level or low end cards.

(Don't take the above explanations too seriously ;))

:LOL: It's funny because it's just too true.

Never thought of fanboys having Stockholm syndrome before.. A hilarious explanation.
 
:LOL: It's funny because it's just too true.

Never thought of fanboys having Stockholm syndrome before.. A hilarious explanation.

I like it too :).

Anyway I am just happy that competition has returned to the market. Now we just need more in the CPU arena too.
 
Expreview apparently found it a proper name: "Geforce GTX 295".
Does this mean that the single GPU solutions with the 55nm GT200 will be called "GTX 270" and "GTX 290" ? Maybe "GTX 265" and "GTX 285" ?
Dual GTX260 to be Officially Named GTX295

NVIDIA would be giving its flagship consumer graphics processor, the G200 a refresh using the newer 55nm silicon fabrication process. With this, the company plans to carve out new SKUs taking the benefit of enhanced thermal and electrical properties of the updated core. In the pipeline, is a dual-GPU card based on two GeForce GTX 260 GPUs.

Expreview learned that the new graphics card is to be named GeForce GTX 295. NVIDIA is creating the card to regain the performance crown from ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2, the fastest single graphics card in the market. The card will sport two G200b cores in the 216 SP configuration, although not much is known about the memory configuration and clock speeds, at this point in time. The card has already passed design phase and is awaiting trial production and testing. It is expected to be released in January 2009.

http://www.expreview.com/news/hard/2008-12-03/1228240678d10681.html

Typically, dual GPU cards from Nvidia never last in the market, since the company quickly replaces it with a next generation high-end part after less than 4/6 months.
I hope the situation repeats itself again, since dual GPU setups are never the optimal solution from a driver development/gamer standpoint.
Just a quick fix to buy some time for the IHV.
 
Produced in august... doesn't this sound too much like the apparently faulty respin back then?
And august-january for a direct replacement chip on the same cards seems quite long too..
 
Produced in august... doesn't this sound too much like the apparently faulty respin back then?
And august-january for a direct replacement chip on the same cards seems quite long too..

inq just had a writeup on how messed up the GTX295 will be.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/12/03/nvidia-55nm-parts-update

Ze Inq said:
The funniest part is what is happening to the derivative parts. Normally you get a high end device, and shortly after, a mid-range variant comes out that is half of the previous part, and then a low end SKU that is 1/4 of the big boy. Anyone notice that there are all of zero GT200 spinoffs on the roadmap? The mess has now officially bled over into the humor column. µ
 
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